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#1 9 years ago

This is as sad as it is infuriating. 84-year-old guard of a supply dump has for years falsely claimed he was a twice-wounded WWII paratrooper:'Band of Brothers' American World War 2 hero exposed as a fraud | Mail Online

Howard Manoian saw Band Of Brothers and apparently got so caught up in wanting the adulation he saw those true heroes getting that he falsely claimed that he was an 82nd Airborne paratrooper who jumped not only on D-Day into St. Mere Eglise, but into Holland for Operation Market-Garden. He lived this lie for years and was even singled out to be decorated with the Legion d'Honneur by the French government just last month at the 65th anniversary of D-Day.

But I suspect there's little need for anyone to curse his name to the skies, because his punishment has already been given: he recently moved to Chef du Pont, France. Can you imagine having to live among the French as an American who has been exposed as a lying cur? About WWII? In France? He is in for far more punishment than anyone in America could mete out.




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#2 9 years ago

He didn't go about all that very smartly, maybe if he had just been a bit less gung-ho no one would probably have ever bothered to find out.




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#3 9 years ago

Sounds like something Capt. Sobel would have done...




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#4 9 years ago

I wonder why people would claim such things... I guess some people are just attention whores. From time to time you hear of fake vets, people who haven't didn't do or get invovled in what they claim to have done or people who weren't in the army (or resistance, various fake resistance people out there aswell) to begin with...

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Edit: He actually got the Legion d'Honneu? Lol, did they even bother to check (ea archives for documents, asking confirmed fellow vets and so on...). :uhm: Especially since that medal isn't a cheap, "simple" medal...and they hear rumors of him being a cheat, which should sent a signalof some sort atleast...




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#5 9 years ago

He definately did it for the attention. Looked some stories up on him, telling herioc tales in a bar while being admired by re-enactors and such. One video on YT shows some FJ re-enactors and it seems he told them they looked just like the Krauts he killed back in '44 and not like those comical movie krauts! Pathetic since he probably has never seen a German in combat.




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#6 9 years ago
stylie;4942597Sounds like something Capt. Sobel would have done...

That makes me think of poor Sobel's postwar life...if what we know is true. I think almost all of the little bit there is available about Sobel's postwar life comes more or less from Stephen Ambrose, who we have to admit would have had a storyteller's interest in tying up all loose ends for the "villain" to get his just deserts. So the only picture of Sobel I am aware of is of a terribly embittered, alienated man whose life before, during and after must have been hellish.

If that is pretty much the case, based on what we came to know of his bullying and general all around extreme unpleasantness, I would think his life would have been just as miserable even if he had never heard of Easy Company or the 101st Airborne. There was something to him, because he got his jump wings, and from all we know he was certainly no natural athlete or particularly strong or coordinated . So he had to be tough.

But that toughness and desire to succeed seems to to have been born of resentment and feelings of inferiority. What a sad, sad figure.




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#7 9 years ago

I feel like Ambrose and the miniseries were unfair to Capt. Sobel. Sure, he wasn't fit to command a paratrooper company. But he was a great trainer, and many 101st veterans have said they wouldn't have survived the war if it weren't for Sobel's harsh training regimens. He was shot by a German machine gunner during Market Garden and served during the Korean conflict, and retired a Lt. Col.




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#8 9 years ago

I just checked wikipedia, it says that Sobel attempted suicide in 1980, leaving him blind and dependant for the last seven years of his life.




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#9 9 years ago

Jesus...




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#10 9 years ago
Captain Pyjama Shark;4942882I just checked wikipedia, it says that Sobel attempted suicide in 1980, leaving him blind and dependant for the last seven years of his life.

I just checked that, and I'm a little leery of such unsupported information, if for no other reason than "citation needed" is the most frequently cited source in the Sobel Wiki. *ahem* It very likely is all true, but I'd like to see some sourcing before I accept it as 100% fact.




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