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stiner

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#1 13 years ago

just some pictures i hope they make this map for FH2 :rolleyes: hehe 4 tigers on it aleast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Villers-Bocage http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ww2/vb/villers-bocage.htm picture 4 is whats left of Michael Wittmann 007 tiger




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#2 13 years ago

i got some info about wittman on my msn space, link-->here and if it dousnt work (hapens sometimes for no reasen) try here




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#3 13 years ago
sibeni got some info about wittman on my msn space, link-->here and if it dousnt work (hapens sometimes for no reasen) try here

thanks :D i still dont know what blew hes tank up some people say it was a plane and some say it was a firefly :confused:no one nows for sure :rolleyes:




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#4 13 years ago

Stiner, I thought that there was an explosion inside his Tiger that blew off the turret? Could that be a possibilty?




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#5 13 years ago
Dr.FritzStiner, I thought that there was an explosion inside his Tiger that blew off the turret? Could that be a possibilty?

Tanks are often destroyed by ammo "cooking off" due to a hit by something, so yes, it was blown off from inside, most likely.




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#6 13 years ago
Dr.FritzStiner, I thought that there was an explosion inside his Tiger that blew off the turret? Could that be a possibilty?

hehe yes Fritz thats what they say, was it a rocket from a plane then they say it was a shell from a firefly :D hehe its make you mind up time:lol::beer:




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#7 13 years ago

It would have been better if it came from a firefly, i mean, that means he finally got outsmarted/outmanouvred by an allied tank. death by plane seems kinda lame for a tank ace.




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#8 13 years ago

attempt2:try reading the 'official' repords here




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#9 13 years ago

ahhh... one of my favorite tank heroes




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#10 13 years ago
The 13th RaptorIt would have been better if it came from a firefly, i mean, that means he finally got outsmarted/outmanouvred by an allied tank. death by plane seems kinda lame for a tank ace.

His tank was hit by two 17Ib shells on the flank by a Sherman Firefly of 3rd Platoon of A Squadron of the 1st Northampotonshire Yeomanry.

But contrary to the oft quoted Typhoon strike, the latest and the ONLY one that can seemingly be substantiated with facts is, that he WAS taken out with 2 shots to his right rear flank by a single Sherman Firefly belonging to Sgt. Gordon (gunner; Trooper Joe Ekins), from 3.Plt., A.Sqn., 33.Arm. Bgd., 1.Northamptonshire Yeomanry. He and the other Tigers with him were caught totally unawares, not realizing the British had taken up a flanking position so close by, thinking the Poles ahead were their only concern.

This Firefly was hidden in a tree line with a troop of standard 75mm Shermans to Wittmann's starboard side, N.East of Gaumesnil as he moved north in command Tiger "007" (ex Heinz Von Westerhagen's, whom he had succeeded as Bttn.CO on July 10 when the former suffered complications to an earlier head wound, hence allowing Wittmann to inherit his Tiger).

Wittmann's was the last vehicle in the advance, through an open field parallel to the N158, toward the 1.Polish Arm.Div. reported to be ahead at Aignan de Cramesnil.

He did so along with 6 other Tigers, 5 of which were initially KO'd and 1 abandonned in this unexpected ambush, with the last KO'd a little later (source: "TIC 2"; p.259 text, p.290 pic., + Agte; pp.423-433 text {p.425 in particular}, p.477 pic, + pp.182-183 "Panzers in Normandy - Then & Now {a little dated and still claiming 5 Shermans and only 4 Tigers}, + p.46-53 "After the Battle" mag no. 48 - "Michael Wittmann's Last Battle" - which even has transcripts of British I/C and radio traffic describing the incidents).

The only minor glitch is that the British claim less kills than Tigers found, but in the heat of battle no one would really be keeping meticulous score).

The Agte book describes the action concisely even down to recollections from Hans Höflinger who witnessed the hits into the side wall around the fuel tank area that initially lifted and displaced the turret onto the hull top, and began a fire, before ammo cooking off sent it skyward to its final resting place behind the vehicle. The penetrations and subsequent explosions instantly killed the crew (Agte p.425 & 429). The vehicle was obviously still moving when hit and the explosions have broken both tracks while it continued rolling off them till slewing to a halt some 20 metres further on.

The Germans for a long time refused to believe he had been killed and listed him as "MIA" for morale purposes though most officers in s.SS.Pz.Abt.101 new he had been killed. His roadside grave, were he was buried by local civilians in a communal pit, was found in 1983 based on research being done for "Panzers in Normandy - Then & Now". The research by the author led to the German War Graves Commission searching the area with metal detectors, finding the bodies and relocating his and his crew's remains to La Cambe War Cemetary where they still lie today.

Why the 'Typhoon' or 'surrounded by Shermans' (Polish or canadian) myths still persist when so much evidence now 'proves' it was a lone Firefly, is a real mystery? The Germans apparently began it as a propaganda exercise (after first listing him as MIA for a very long time), so as to