Just got back from a holiday from vietnam...........was a great trip and was a real eye opener learning about how the country works and it recovering from the war. here are sum pics....... http://img45.exs.cx/img45/4073/Picture1583.jpg Firing an M-16 full auto at Cu Chi Tunnel System west of Saigon http://img46.exs.cx/img46/1470/Picture1461.jpg Firing an AK-47 full auto at Cu Chi Tunnel System west of Saigon http://img116.exs.cx/img116/8408/Picture154.jpg Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum at Hanoi http://img130.exs.cx/img130/4603/Picture095.jpg Imperial Palace at Hue City (look out............T54 spawns round here) http://img115.exs.cx/img115/1399/Picture140.jpg Treking through the north vietnamese highlands south of Dien Bien Phu visiting minority tribes there are many other pics but theres just a taste. but i tells ya.........its bloody good being back home
nice , i like visitnig those old war places , how was shooting those weapons ? not sure if you guys still get drafted in australia :) .
do you have pics of the tunnels itself ? anythign would be appreciated ,or stories you heard .
the weapons? 1 word............loud............loud as all hell...........i was scared shitless firing the M16 the first time. My group was walking around the booby trap museum 200m away and from that distance the gunshots were extremely loud. When it was my turn to go up and fire the gun they gave a set of ear muffs to me........one size fits all they say but in the pic i think it shows that it only covered a bit of my ears. i set it on semi auto and squeezed the trigger...... then a huge crack.......the gun shot was the loudest thing i have ever heard i was deaf with a giant ring in my ear....then i fired the rest of the bullets in semi auto............the M16 is a cool looking and cool feeling gun to fire.......light recoil.......twangy sound.......just all round fun...........i then gave the guy my 7.62mm FMJ AK47 rounds he loaded the gun for me i then asked him to put the gun on full auto........he looked at me strangley then adjusted the gun to full auto.........i pressed the butt into my shoulder looked down the iron sight and held down the trigger..........the kick back was vicious (like being punched afew times) and the AK's accuracy turned into what you would find in a pea shooter.........ultimate spray...........The AK47 is a beutiful gun to fire...much funner than the M16. My mates M16 jammed 4 times with only 10 rounds firing........... i no lots of people say the M16A1 was good but im telling you.....its the shitest milltary weapon.....its made out of plastic and light alloy, it jamms all the time and unnacurate. By the end of all that i could hear nothing so we all had to use hand signals to know what to do....... we aranged afew people to fire guns at the same time so we could get a real fire fight happening and i tell you.........it is the biggest adreneline rush ever firing an AK47 full auto with 4 other people with other weapons including an M60 LMG and M1 Carbine.........after the guns everyone was quite then we all talked how much it would fucking hurt being shot by them. If u ever go there fire the M60, M16, AK-47 and the .50 cal BMG machine gun. guns on offer there to fire were: M1 garand Winchester Shotgun Colt .45 Grease Gun Thompson M16 AK47 M60 LMG .30 LMG M1 Carbine M14 .50 HMG and the M40 Sniper rifle 1 US doller a bullet I could not take photos inside the tunnels because i could barely move in them.....but to give you an idea how big they are here is a photo of a wartime opening to the tunnels http://img130.exs.cx/img130/3745/Picture194.jpg The ones you use to go in now are 4 times bigger than the original size and u can still barley fit in them. There are alot of scars left in vietnam from all the wars waged there........french pill boxes in Thua Thein pass and alot of American ones south of Hue on the highway to Danang..........40% of Saigon and Danang airport is old american buildings, bunkers, hangers etc. War is everywere.......Sampans made out of old drop tanks are a common sight in the mekong, Bullet holes are EVERYWHERE.......especially Hue and Saigon. Because of it being a school trip War tours were out of the question.......we only spent half a day at Cu Chi........but then again everywere u go was a warzone and you will see many reminders of that as stated above. Vietnam is a great place for culture, History and Shopping but don't do what i did and spend to long in the North. Saigon is where you want to go Hue is a small city.....no high rise buildings, tallest ones there are the 5 story hotels.......go to Hue because of historical content. Danang is pretty shite.....it's a big industrial town now........only good things are the warzones around it and china beach. Mekong Delta i disliked the most but thats personal prefernce
Victim of Forgotten HopeForum bystander
26th April 2004
Beautiful country, I cant believe the war still has such an impact on the place after all these years.
Well with all the casualties and the politcal motivation of the whole thing its hard to put something like that behind
Dread thinks I'm a special person
19th May 2003
not forgetting that parts of the country is destroyed "forever". all those explosives and chemical agents that were dumped actually exterminated all life in certain areas, and it won't recover as long as man walks the earth. Even today there are plenty of children born with mutations and diseases directly related to the use of chemicals that tampered with the ecosystem. For Americans the war may have ended 30 years ago, in Vietnam it's still taking lives.
The M16A1 shouldn't be that bad reliability-wise if it was reasonable clean. It might have something to do with the age of the particulary weapon(although a good weapon should work well even after so long), I've seen 30+ years G3s with problems(although those just refuse to fire semi(only full auto) or have busted recoil springs(=pain)...they never really jam). Blame weak materials and lack of sloppines in the design.
Yes there are alot of disturbing things in the Saigon War Museum.......particularly the angent orange display.........3 dead mutated babies pickled in jars on display........... 1 with the head the size of a basketball and 2 others with adult sized fists and small bodies..........very disturbing......the napalm and white phosphorus effects pictures were also graphically disturbing.........If you ever go to Vietnam the war museum is a must....it's small but it says everything it needs to.........just be prepared to see some of the most disturbing things you will ever see.........American GI's nailing nails into the back of a farmer to get info on VC......yeah i think ive said enough. M16 is still a peice of shit. :)
I take what n0e says way too seriously
27th April 2003
Heh, you closed your eyes while firing the M16 :)
Sounds like a cool trip. And it looks like you were able to see the effects of the disturbing wars fought throughout SE Asia.