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MG42Maniac

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#11 13 years ago
pvt. AllenThere is a bigger difference beteween AMD Athlon 64 (San Diego core) and Athlons FX than just clock MHz ammount. First FX has more stable and overclocking capable core called ClawHammer. FX-55 has 2600 MHz processor clock, the artery's clock is 400 with 1000 MHz HT. Also FX has a higher core voltage - 1.5. For the end it has CPU cover and Cool&Quiet technology, but it's not the most important thing. I'm not trying to convince you to buy that thing since it's not too cheap. But it's not just about clock ratio. And I compared here the FX-55 not 57 model.

I see your point but what really makes the FX CPU's is the faster they have a faster clock speed. Its the same with the entire AMD64 range the higher the clock speed the better the performance. Things like a more stable core for overclocking is great if your an ultra enthusiast and you want to get every extra Mhz out of your CPU, but i'm not one of them. At the end of the day its either the ultra rich or the ultra enthusiast who is going to buy the FX57. If I did OC my CPU, which I highly doubt I will I would only OC it by 200Mhz. The smart buy to me seems to be the AMD64 3700+ at only £160 which I might get and save £80 and just OC upto 4000+ speeds.

The FX57's I have seen reviewed and seen to buy and have the San Diego core and 1.4V so it looks like an updated version of the clawhammer which was 130nm IIRC.




pvt. Allen

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#12 13 years ago

Yeah, okay. One more thing, I know that you want to have 2500 MHz, don't you? But would't it be better to get the newest Athlon core called Venice? CPUs based on this core are AMD Athlons 64 from 3000+(1800 MHz) to 3800+(2500 MHz). I own Athlon 64 3000+ Venice and it's a realy stable CPU and "better" than other cores based same units. I never tryed to overclock it since I don't need to but it's proven that there are many units that can be overclocked up to 3000 MHz (from 1800 !!!) with only a little voltage add. I would just suggest the 3800+ if you want good clock, the 4000+ is jut older.




MG42Maniac

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#13 13 years ago

The problem with the 3800+ is that it only has 512kb of L2 cache where as the 3700+ SD and 4000+ SD both have 1MB. I might get the 3700+ SD as its £80 cheaper than the 4000+ SD and is only 200Mhz slower which would be an easy OC.




pvt. Allen

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#14 13 years ago

Well...yes...that's true. And there is no big difference biteween prices of 3800 and 4000. I would use such CPU for Operation Flashpoint. What have you got from 2 GB of RAM and 5000 meter view distance if your CPU can't deal quickly with counting polys for all statics.:p EDIT: Don't you think that old "tongue" emotikon looked better?:naughty:




David Hasselhoff

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#15 13 years ago

Get a fast HD. Like a raptor.. only 80gigs but fast as hell. (2GB Ram and raptor harddrive will give you faster maploads, trust me)

For BF2 i also recommend a fast graphics card.. like ATI X850XT or something better..BF2 is so damn heavy on graphics.

Edit: And if you really wanna go pro get a Lian LI case, they are expensive but good. I use one.. but this maybe to much for your budget..




MG42Maniac

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#16 13 years ago

David HasselhoffGet a fast HD. Like a raptor.. only 80gigs but fast as hell. (2GB Ram and raptor harddrive will give you faster maploads, trust me)

For BF2 i also recommend a fast graphics card.. like ATI X850XT or something better..BF2 is so damn heavy on graphics.

Edit: And if you really wanna go pro get a Lian LI case, they are expensive but good. I use one.. but this maybe to much for your budget..

I've got 1GB PC3200 RAM and 1 74GB Raptor but i'm not always the first person to load up anymore. Maybe my raptor is getting full or people are getting better computerss. I'm hoping RAID 0 Raptors and 2gb PC3200 RAM will cure this though ;)

I like some of the Lian Li cases but I dunno about in Sweeden but in UK they are some much nicer and cheaper ones available.




David Hasselhoff

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#17 13 years ago

MG42ManiacI've got 1GB PC3200 RAM and 1 74GB Raptor but i'm not always the first person to load up anymore. Maybe my raptor is getting full or people are getting better computerss. I'm hoping RAID 0 Raptors and 2gb PC3200 RAM will cure this though ;)

I like some of the Lian Li cases but I dunno about in Sweeden but in UK they are some much nicer and cheaper ones available.

Then you need that extra 1GB of RAM :dread2: ..I sit on 2GB ram and a nice raptor (74GB as you).. When it comes to my FH maploads, then I'm always first or one of the first to load. :naughty:

Edit: Btw love your Hasselhoff avatar..




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#18 13 years ago

I'm going to try and build a computer with the money I get from Christmas. Might as well post the specs to see if it's alright.

-ASUS A8N5X mobo -AMD 3500+ with a Venice core -One Gig of Patriot memory (2x 512) -200gb Maxtor HDD with a 16mb buffer -Aspire X-Cruise Case (black) -Sky Hawk 470 watt PSU -HIS Radeon X800

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KleenexMan

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#19 13 years ago

Most people don't find this important, but buy a sound card. It will definetly increase some slower performance if you want to run sound at max. Why? Because running onboard sound uses up alot of processor clocks. Instead with a sound card it has its own sound processing device and it releives some of the strain on your CPU.

Edit: I suggest getting yourself a nice KingWin or Thermal take all copper heatsink and fan. Somthing that is guaranteed solid copper core with copper fins. Also don't use the thermal paste or pad shipped with these coolers and or the origional shipped with the AMD approved cooler. Buy Arctic Silver 5. Or if you want a cheaper one with only a few degrees C loss buy Arctic Silver Ceramique. Oh, and running how GPU's in a system means that heavy air flow is a must. I reccomend investing in a nice little PCI slot fan. It has lowered my case temps from around 31 degrees C to about 28. Now this might not seem like much but when you are running game you need all the fresh air you can get.




DerMann

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#20 13 years ago

I have a heatsink/fan and Artic Silver 5, I just didn't bother putting it up there.




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