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emonkies

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#31 11 years ago

When I was still in FH mod one of the maps I was planning to do was "The Battle of the Mace".

It was the Polish sitting on the mace shaped hill in the middle of the exit of the Falaise gap against the SS in 1944.

The Poles took on a SS Corp and some other units and basically got shot to shit but took down alot of Germans.

Meanwhile, also on August 18, General Maczek's 1st Polish Armoured Division took up position with 87 Sherman tanks on the wooded "Hill 262" (known as Mont-Ormel to the French, The Mace to the Poles) to the east of the Canadians, to prevent any counter-offensive from the east seeking to rescue the trapped Germans. From the hill they also had a commanding position overlooking the Chambois to Vimoutiers road (by now the last road out of the pocket), and proceeded to attack the fleeing Germans. In response, the isolated Poles were repeatedly and ferociously attacked, especially on August 20 when the II SS Panzer Corps, which had escaped the pocket, attacked and broke through back into the pocket from Vimoutiers. The Poles had lost 325 dead, with 1,002 wounded and 114 missing when they were reinforced by the 22nd Armoured Regiment (The Canadian Grenadier Guards) in the early morning of August 21. The Germans lost around 2,000 dead, with 5,000 taken prisoner, and 359 vehicles destroyed.

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#32 11 years ago

Ye, there's a book on Maczek's troops called BLACK DEVILS MARCH - A DOOMED ODYSSEY: The 1st Polish Armoured Division 1939-1945 by Evan McGilvray. It is kind of dull in general, hardly including anything more than plain report-like descriptions of division's actions, but it does a great job precisely depicting the fights to close the falaise gap and all the events surrounding it.

For example: 2 days before the battle of the Mace, a small regiment from 1st Arm Div was sent to advance towards Chambois. The French guide they had tho misunderstood the name of the village and lead them to Les Champeaux, a settlement controlled by the Germans. Funny thing, even a German traffic officer along the road showed them the way to Champeaux, taking them (a bunch of sherman tanks with polish infantry and AT arty) for Germans. They ended up in a village ocupied by the remnants of the famed "Das Reich" 2nd SS Division that already got out of the pocket and were resting. After some fierce fighting from both sides, the Germans were pushed off. The Poles took on some attacks from the allied airforce, which was instructed to engage all targets in the area, but in the end, they took POWs, valuable docs and an officer's casino :bandit:




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#33 11 years ago

:) here's even more You need to know about the subject :)lots of great infos with photos and maps Memorial Montormel - History normandy 1e Poolse Pantserdivisie

some extras Blog de la 1° D.B. Polonaise du Général Maczek (lots of photos, site in French so Johannes can have a feast, I can't read what is written there :/ )

"Anlushac11"When I was still in FH mod one of the maps I was planning to do was "The Battle of the Mace".

I'd love You as GOD :D as all the polish players of FH .




The Last Unknown Soldier

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#34 11 years ago

what i remember reading on this site about horses (don't know why the hell i was there, cant remember url) talked about calvary unit (polish) being slaughtered by a tank unit in 1939, but in 1943, another cavalry unit (also polish) suprised another tank unit in a dawn raid and captured the entire unit (must have been company-sized or less) p.s. my pic is a painting of the 1939 charge, 19th lancers i think was the name of the cavalry division but a charge like that, must have been a real lord of the rings/300 moment or something




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#35 11 years ago
The Last Unknown Soldier;3806304what i remember reading on this site about horses (don't know why the hell i was there, cant remember url) talked about calvary unit (polish) being slaughtered by a tank unit in 1939, but in 1943, another cavalry unit (also polish) suprised another tank unit in a dawn raid and captured the entire unit (must have been company-sized or less) p.s. my pic is a painting of the 1939 charge, 19th lancers i think was the name of the cavalry division but a charge like that, must have been a real lord of the rings/300 moment or something

in 1943 there was no regular Polish army in Poland. The situation You described was also from 1939. There wasn't only one cavalry charge during 1939 campaign, just check the wikipedia link few posts earlier.




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#36 11 years ago

im not too sure if the '43 charge was polish, but that's what i thought it said, not too sure ps wiki is not an accurate source, i could post about kumkwats and not know anything about them




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#37 11 years ago
The Last Unknown Soldier;3810871im not too sure if the '43 charge was polish, but that's what i thought it said, not too sure ps wiki is not an accurate source, i could post about kumkwats and not know anything about them

it's accurate when they give You the source from where the info was taken.