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jumjum

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#1 12 years ago

In another thread in Off Top I noticed a poster had used as a sig Roads To Moscow by Al Stewart (who also did Time Passages and Year Of The Cat). It's from the mid-70's, about a young Russian soldier caught up in Barbarossa and the seemingly unstoppable German advance. It's always struck me because of a reference to Guderian in the lyrics.

Off the top of my head I can think of only the Stones' Sympathy For The Devil as another rock/pop song having a direct (non-nuclear) reference to WWII: "Rode a tank, held a general's rank, when the Blitzkrieg raged, and the bodies stank". There are several songs, mainly from the folk/protest song movements, which reference Hiroshima/nuclear war. But non-nuke rock-era songs with a WWII reference are, IMO, rare.

So, anybody else come up with any? Now, I'm not talking about Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, etc., or protest songs about Eddie Slovick. internment, Jim Crow or the like. It is okay to post songs where the subject is WWII, although I'd really like songs where the song-writer threw in an unexpected or out-of-context WWII allusion. Know what I mean, Vern? I'm sure you can Google up any number of lyrics sites, but it would be more fun if folks can dredge things out of their own experience. Have at it.




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#2 12 years ago

Blitzkrieg Bop, by the Ramones Why non-nuclear?




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#3 12 years ago

Doh! I forgot Ramones! (Aren't they all dead now? And only one of of natural causes?) Non-nuclear because there are many anti-nuke songs in the vein of A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall, The Eve Of Destrcution, etc. and they're very obvious. I'm looking for something a little...oblique, or at least less obvious in the lyrics.

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#4 12 years ago

Complicated, 50's rock'n'roll was more about youth rebellion against parents and subtile hints about have sex and fun, Elvis was more mainstream but I don't remember in more rebel rockers like Eddie Cochran such kind of lyrics. Bluesmen I am no really sure, black people was not fully integrated in army during WW2 (correct me if I am wrong), so maybe this was not a main theme for their pains. Anyways I guess blues songs about WW2 were created, it was very typical in bluesmen to talk about actual events and mix them with the pains we get from ladies.

This page has some popular songs with WW2 propaganda theme, but is basically swing and jazz: http://www.umkc.edu/lib/spec-col/ww2/main.htm

In 60's they got their own wars to rant about, so WW2 theme was not so important for them, I don't remember now, maybe Beatles has some dark reference in some of the Lennon songs, and maybe The Unknow soldier by The Doors, it has not a direct reference but Morrison was very dark in his lyrics and the autobiographical aspect was important, his father was Navy admiral and fought in Guam, and Morrison was all day killing his father in his songs, haha.

More modern, Enola Gay by Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark but this is about nukes so is out of your request




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#5 12 years ago

Aww fellas, this is wher ya gotta look toward the metal scene, Namely, IRON MAIDEN!!! "Aces High" for one. How about "One" by Metallica. Could be a stretch. Hell Maiden has a song about WWI called Paschendale. ACES_HIGH.jpgpaschendale-draw.jpg

And jumjum, They would start concerts with Winston Churchill giving "Their Finest Hour". Then into Aces High. Ahhh, if you dont like it you cant feel it, but Im still into this band after all these many years. Songs about Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great, Ninjas.... well I wont doubt if some day they'll get to ninjas!

*edit Found this one, "tailgunner" eddie41.jpg

Don't forget all that stuff in Pink Floyd's The Wall. More references then "songs about"




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#6 12 years ago

Yeah Pink Floyd, The Wall.

Watched the movie yesterday for the first time and it is full with links to WWII.

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#7 12 years ago

Letter from Hiro by "The Vapors" and the Entires album by Camel called Nude. Both can be found and previewed at Itunes music store..LOL




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#8 12 years ago

roads to moscow is one of my all time fav songs , and im a punk fan 0_O




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#9 12 years ago

Slayer's "Angel Of Death" is about Dr. Mengele.




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#10 12 years ago

stylie, I'm not a Metallica fan, but I do know they are a cut above, being more more mature and thoughful than you might assume a metal band to be (if that's not a complete oxymoron). James Hetfield is clearly a pretty smart dude. Hey, a metal band that has a traveling interventional relationship therapist? That one breaks the mold for sure.

Dang! Forgot about Pink Floyd. But was there a WWII ref in The Wall? I remember Gunner's Dream from The Final Cut, which was a definite WWII reference in an album otherwise, IIRC, about the Falklands conflict (in which, again IIRC, history's last organized bayonet charge was made).

nesty, remind me of the WWII references in The Wall. As I remember, it was sort of an updated Tommy, about the growing alienation of a young boy and and how it contributed to his later rock stardom. I can't recall the WWII ref's in The Wall, but having within the last year been in Intensive Care hooked up to a morphine pump, I can say that Comfortably Numb pretty well nails the upside (which is very limited, boys and girls) of the narcotic experience, at least from the "medically necessary" perspective.

akula I'm completely ignorant of The Vapors' Letter From Hiro, or even the mere existence of Camel, much less Nude. Expand, please.

MkH, exactly what was Slayer's take on "Der Todesengel"?

Aren't there any types of references which only a WWII history semi-nut might catch? Something about "the pens of Kiel", or "blood on the Kokoda Trail", "the Maquis moved by night", that kind of indirect or esoteric thing?