Rock/Pop songs with non-nuclear WWII references -1 reply

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jumjum

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#31 14 years ago
hslan.SchwabenpfeilHere are 2 songs that directly come to my mind with references to WWII:"Leningrad" by Billy Joel and "Me262" by The Blue Oyster Cult Both great songs. I still listen to them.

What! I should know both but don't. I'm gonna look up lyrics.

*edit* Heh. Just looked at them. Me262 was clearly written by someone who knew what he was talking about, history- and tech-wise. A potential FHer there. Leningrad on the other hand merely mentioned Leningrad as a prelude to a late Cold War complaint that the Soviet Union is not so bad, the US not so good, why can't we all live in harnony. Typical stuff you'd hear from an eastern seaboard upper-middle-class liberal kid in the late 70's.




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#32 14 years ago

I know, theres only one short reference to ww2 in "leningrad", sry.

Btw, nice description of Mr.Joels family background;)

Another song which concerns ww2:

"Where have all the flowers gone...", fits for all ww2 countries, all had their losses.




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#33 14 years ago
jumjumJ.Steiner - Um, this is no reflection on you (look, I have Elton John's first 5 albums, so who am I to talk about taste?), but other than the title of the first song and the line in that one about "hangmen of Prague", which is fairly non-specific, there's not one thing that ties these Slayer songs to WWII. They may have meant them to be related to WWII, but they sure didn't do it with what may be generously called their writing, such as it is. It's pretty much very loosely connected (and almost incoherent) phrases and sentence fragments evoking death, doom and destruction. Standard fare for Blood Rock I guess.

LOL I must be the weirdest guy on the planet. I love Slayer AND Elton John!

And Penny AND Salma!!!




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#34 14 years ago

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MkH, exactly what was Slayer's take on "Der Todesengel"?

It was a very contoversial track when it first came out and Slayer was accused of nazism and whatnot. However, the main reason was really Hanneman's -who wrote the lyrics- interest in WW2 militaria and history. So, a contoversial and provoking subject - a perfect track for the 'Reign In Blood' album.

Fantastic piece in my opinion, and possibly the most famous thrash metal track of them all.

The lyrics (as you can see, while being pretty nasty, they don't embrace national socialism in any way):

[Lyrics & Music - Hanneman] Auschwitz, the meaning of pain The way that I want you to die Slow death, immense decay Showers that cleanse you of your life Forced in Like cattle You run Stripped of Your life's worth Human mice, for the Angel of Death Four hundred thousand more to die Angel of Death Monarch to the kingdom of the dead Sadistic, surgeon of demise Sadist of the noblest blood Destroying, without mercy To benefit the Aryan race Surgery, with no anesthesia Feel the knife pierce you intensely Inferior, no use to mankind Strapped down screaming out to die Angel of Death Monarch to the kingdom of the dead Infamous butcher, Angel of Death Pumped with fluid, inside your brain Pressure in your skull begins pushing through your eyes Burning flesh, drips away Test of heat burns your skin, your mind starts to boil Frigid cold, cracks your limbs How long can you last In this frozen water burial? Sewn together, joining heads Just a matter of time 'Til you rip yourselves apart Millions laid out in their Crowded tombs Sickening ways to achieve The holocaust Seas of blood, bury life Smell your death as it burns Deep inside of you Abacinate, eyes that bleed Praying for the end of Your wide awake nightmare Wings of pain, reach out for you His face of death staring down, Your blood running cold Injecting cells, dying eyes Feeding on the screams of The mutants he's creating Pathetic harmless victims Left to die Rancid Angel of Death Flying free Angel of Death Monarch to the kingdom of the dead Infamous butcher, Angel of Death Angel of Death




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#35 14 years ago

Jesus God. I didn't know such things exist. Well, what to say? While it's not explicitly supportive of national socialism/nazism, it's certainly not a criticism of it either. (So we understand, as far as I'm concerned they have the right to say/write anything they want, including love songs to Heinrich Himmler, and folks have to right to enjoy their work: just don't expect me to listen or like it. I'm just assessing the tone of these lyrics.) At best it is neutral to nazism, death camps, torture under the guise of medical experiments, cruelty to, suffering and murder of Jews in concentration camps. They like it. Lovely. Seems to be in line with Slayer's penchant for death and destruction, and its general delight in humanity's capacity for inflicting suffering and pain. Hmmmm. Sounds a lot like a beautiful fallen angel I've heard of.....

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LOL I must be the weirdest guy on the planet. I love Slayer AND Elton John!

I'm the only person in the world today who can sing the "Tumbleweed Connection" and "11/17/70" albums song for song. Not that anyone remembers them. But I bailed when he began being more interested in his outfits and glasses than his music. Which was around 1976, IIRC.




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#36 14 years ago

LOL I look at music the same way I look at movies... Sometimes I want Freddy Krueger... Sometimes I want the Lion King!!




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#37 14 years ago

Rocket Man meant a lot to us at that time :naughty: I saw Blue Oyster Cult sing ME 262 at Bloomington IN circa 1975 or so. All five (?) members of the band grabbed guitars and left the drums and such alone. They were backing up some punk band called Aerosmith or something like that... Not too many others picked up on the WWII theme at that time. I think Viet Nam got in the way.