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Fuzzy Bunny

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#1 13 years ago

Hi kids,

for today's installment of Fuzzy's Weird and Wonderful World War II Weapons, I have something very special, as you've all been such good boys and girls (does anyone read this crap?)

I remembered seeing a photo of a German experimental mine-clearing behemoth in the Time Life WWII Secret Weapons book years ago. References to the thing were a bitch to find, but there's information out there once you start looking. Please note that I'm going to start attaching photos rather than links to them, as some sites don't like this.

Our first candidate today is the Krupp Raeumer S, or "Schweres Minenraeumfahrzeug", a 130-ton monster consisting of 2 articulated wheeled sections, each with its own control cabin and Maybach HL-90 engine. Driven by an 8-man crew, it was supposed to putter over minefields, clearing the way for tanks. The only prototype was found by US troops at Hillersleben in 1945. The next time you cross a road bridge, keep repeating to yourself: "130 tons. 130 tons. 130 tons."

The second one I stumbled across more out of coincidence; it is called the Alkett Raeumgeraet (or "Minenraeumer", depending on sources.) Steered by the smaller back wheels and mounting a Pz. I turret, it was built by Alkett / Krupp / Mercedes-Benz. Apparently a number of prototypes were created, with some even being tested by the Soviets after the war, and found to be unsatisfactory. Apparently the Russian technique of using political prisoners was more effective. The Kubinka tank museum in Moscow has an example of one (along with mondo other cool toys, such as the Karl Moerser.)

Some links:

http://tinyurl.com/7khej -- great "what's that tank" discussion on JP's Panzers http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-vetscor/1107745/posts -- some cool info on German mineclearing vehicles. Please note that I do _not_ like FR, so please don't PM me about the propaganda crap on that site. The photos and info are very good. http://www.panzer-modell.de/berichte/alkett_minenraeumer/alkett_m.htm http://www.tankmuseum.ru/ -- Kubinka tank museum




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#2 13 years ago

nice were do you find this stuff?




Fuzzy Bunny

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#3 13 years ago
ANZACSASnice were do you find this stuff?

Dunno--I have a pretty substantial library of WWII-type stuff back home that I haven't really touched since high school. I remember a lot of the more esoteric parts of it, and I have always had a fondness for experimental / non-mainstream technology, so that sort of thing tends to stick in my mind.

I just remember a few keywords about this and that, then I spend a few minutes on google looking for info about it. Most of what you could possibly want is on the Internet, although a good background knowledge helps to separate the b.s. from fact, and most of the information is poorly categorized and presented.

By the way, I don't include copyright or origin notices on any of my pics or info, because I have a very strong opinion that this sort of thing belongs firmly in the public domain for everyone's edification. If anyone objects, feel free to take it up with me, but frankly I don't think I'll put much effort into arguing about it.




Dr.Fritz

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#4 13 years ago

Man what the hell is all this crap the Germans made. Some of it's creative but some of it is just dumb. Somebody must have been on drugs when desigining this stuff.




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#5 12 years ago
Dr.FritzMan what the hell is all this crap the Germans made. Some of it's creative but some of it is just dumb. Somebody must have been on drugs when desigining this stuff.

not all ideas can be good. many of these "dumb" ideas seemed like good ones at the time. you are too young to understand that. like getting drunk durring a lunchbreak.




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#6 12 years ago
'[130pz.Kading']not all ideas can be good. many of these "dumb" ideas seemed like good ones at the time. you are too young to understand that. like getting drunk durring a lunchbreak.

:Profiler: LOL i did that once in school:(




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#7 12 years ago

FuzzyBunny, I for one always look forward to your 'Secret Weapons' posts :D

As well as the Minenraeumer and Karl, the Kubinka Tank Museum also contains the Maus, lucky bloody Russians :P

Any hint as to what tomorrows subject will be?




Fuzzy Bunny

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#8 12 years ago
J.SteinerAny hint as to what tomorrows subject will be?

Whatever I feel like and happen to think of in the shower :-)




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#9 12 years ago
ANZACSAS:Profiler: LOL i did that once in school:(

did you wind up in a bush in front of a NASA research facility that was a good 10 miles away from your school too?:lol: i still havent figured out how i got there.




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#10 12 years ago

Seen them before but the mineclearing vehicles that look like they came out of StarWars (the other way around actually) are pretty funny. They "Crab sherman" with flails looks more practicle though to me since it will just denote any mine infront of it, this baby might miss some mines.




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