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stylie

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#121 12 years ago

I know how to light up a cigarette in a Hurracaine with one single match and I think with this method, you can light one up while under sniperfire .A dual purpose thing we'd all agree on. I will tell you Lobo, but I remind you that we've never heard that ultimate Spanish insult that still intrigues me to this day... I will glady teach you this method of lighting a smoke in the windiest conditions at night without drawing the attention of snipers in the hills all with one single match.




luftwaffe.be

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#122 12 years ago

who has said Europe = Christianism?

Bosnia or Albania are muslim societies inside the heart of Europe, I was in Bosnia one month after the war, believe me, bosnians are so europeans like you and me, they just pray five times by day, that's the only exotic diference, my bosnians fellows had a joke: "Lobo is more muslim than us, he doesn't drink vodka"

Turkey is a laical muslim society...for now, let's keep the anti-Turkey bashing and maybe someday we will get a integrist islamic fortress in the backdoor...the exact same thing it did happen at Iraq, before laical and now in the dark path to the burka-chic in fashion for lads.

Culturally is not insanely diferent, not at all.

About the kurds, with all my simpathy for them I have mixed feelings. I know a lot about muslim countries and I worked in some of them and sadly not everything is so pretty sometimes with them, the kurds militias are controling all the drugs trafic to Europe and all kind of other dirty business. I condemn the attacks on innocent civilians indeed, but don't see the kurds militias as the brave mujahidins in the Rambo's moves or you will be wrong...again, haha

Anyways, admiting the kurds isue as the black spot of Turkey as EU nation I ask again, why Serbia or Croatia are admited without any kind or moral disagrement?, just because they are christians?, in any case they are weird christians, Christ said: Don't kill

ok this is the issue, Turky is part of the European inheritence, only the turkish arn't. What does a European nation make it been part of the European inhertiance? What do all European nations have it that sence incommen ? What all European nations have in common is that they dissent/or have been seriously influent by either the west or east roman empire. One nation has been infuenst more by it then the other(France more then Germany), and some later then the other(Italy was early and heavily influent, Sweden way later). And in that sense Christianity IS part of the European inheritance, because it either directly differ to either Rome or Constantinople(all other forms of cristianity was formed during the reformation and can be regarded as rip-offs). In that sense, the byzantine empire was a European nation (and until the day it fell in 1453, evry inhabitant of the empire called itself a "roman". the therm byzantine empire is a 19th cen. invention) However, the Turks are NOT Europeans, they are arabic. They orignaly come from saudi-arabia, and were pragan nomads hired by arabic lords to go and pillage the ERE (eastromanempire). They easely converted themsefs to the islamic believe, and from the 12cent on they got rid of their arabic lords and founded their own state on the soil they concerd from their enemies, the byzantines. But their cultural inheritence isn't from Rome, Its from the Persian empire, and that is quete diffrent. Sure, they were infuenst by the byzanitines, sinse they lived on their native lands, but it also sound't be exacurated (to about the same degree the native americans infuenst the collonists, you can learn them to build planations, and to grow corn, but you can't teach them manners!). the arabic culture is better nor worse then the European, it's just diffrent. And the reason,lobo, why some eastern european counties have a degree of muslims in their area, is becouse they were conquerd by the ottomans, and like I said a small degree of infuens but the basic remains the same. they canged religion, not culture. (and also don't forget that they were aftherwards occupied (or liberated if you wish, in basic oth the same concernd on your point of view) by the austrians who also tried to put it into a western european stile (and ofcource failed becouse you simply can't) that is the reason why turks are not europeans




Stefan F

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#123 12 years ago
Member 124113ok this is the issue, Turky is part of the European inheritence, only the turkish arn't. What does a European nation make it been part of the European inhertiance? What do all European nations have it that sence incommen ? What all European nations have in common is that they dissent/or have been seriously influent by either the west or east roman empire. One nation has been infuenst more by it then the other(France more then Germany), and some later then the other(Italy was early and heavily influent, Sweden way later). And in that sense Christianity IS part of the European inheritance, because it either directly differ to either Rome or Constantinople(all other forms of cristianity was formed during the reformation and can be regarded as rip-offs). In that sense, the byzantine empire was a European nation (and until the day it fell in 1453, evry inhabitant of the empire called itself a "roman". the therm byzantine empire is a 19th cen. invention) However, the Turks are NOT Europeans, they are arabic. They orignaly come from saudi-arabia, and were pragan nomads hired by arabic lords to go and pillage the ERE (eastromanempire). They easely converted themsefs to the islamic believe, and from the 12cent on they got rid of their arabic lords and founded their own state on the soil they concerd from their enemies, the byzantines. But their cultural inheritence isn't from Rome, Its from the Persian empire, and that is quete diffrent. Sure, they were infuenst by the byzanitines, sinse they lived on their native lands, but it also sound't be exacurated (to about the same degree the native americans infuenst the collonists, you can learn them to build planations, and to grow corn, but you can't teach them manners!). the arabic culture is better nor worse then the European, it's just diffrent. And the reason,lobo, why some eastern european counties have a degree of muslims in their area, is becouse they were conquerd by the ottomans, and like I said a small degree of infuens but the basic remains the same. they canged religion, not culture. (and also don't forget that they were aftherwards occupied (or liberated if you wish, in basic oth the same concernd on your point of view) by the austrians who also tried to put it into a western european stile (and ofcource failed becouse you simply can't) that is the reason why turks are not europeans

Too much intelligence for me to handle!




LIGHTNING [NL]

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#124 12 years ago

The Turks are from central Asia, not Arabia...




Lobo

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#125 12 years ago

Ah ok, then I am not european because I am agnostic, I feel a no man land today, thanks :(