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Restaurantor

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#1 12 years ago

Just bought world at war vol. 2. dvd set, but it sucked horseass! Mainly just old englishmen telling us to fear the nazis, blablabla. I`m interested in good quality war documentaries, not bad quality "propaganda" movies. Saw the movie in the "fallscharmjàger" thread (I know, misspelling) and it was really great! Need more clips like that. Does anyoe know where to buy good DVDs with clips from the war? Which do you recommend?

PS: I see that I should be more clear, I`m searching clips/documentaries, not movies like "Saving Private Ryan" etc. *Kyuss - Wretch*




pvt. Allen

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#2 12 years ago

Though I haven't seen documentary 'World at War' I doubt it would be propaganda, it might have some political views included, but still I see nothing bad in saying that nazi theology is bad and shouldn't be spread. Anyway, the film wich you saw in that thread on the other hand, was a clear nazi propaganda movie. Though it capturing Holland was a succes for Germany, it wasn't all like they have shown in that film, this was rather booster for German society support for current government. So it shouldn't be viewed as a documentary, but rather as a historical material, very interesting infact. Anyway, it reached it's goal, it gets attention, doesn't it?:) Anyway, I suggest watching tv history programms, I don't think you could buy sufficient ammount of documentarys for reasonable money. In this case buying books is better imo.




Restaurantor

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#3 12 years ago

Yeah, I see your point. To bad that Discovery stopped sending all those great war programs a while back.




pvt. Allen

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#4 12 years ago

It will surely do again, you konw human history is something more than world war 2, though not as interesting.:D




Fuzzy Bunny

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#5 12 years ago

A lot of "good" WWII material is "source" type stuff if you want originals and not something distilled. Sorry to say but this consists of a lot of propaganda if you're mainly interested in film material. At the time, film was _the_ new thing for war reporting, and not as accessible to less-biased individuals as it is now, so almost everything you get will have some sort of a slant to it, or will consist of some documentary editor's choice of "what is relevant and what isn't".

I recommend you have a look at the google/NARA archives (search google for it)--they have a ton of WWII newscasts from the US side. I don't know where to find uncommented (or very objectively commented) raw film footage, if anyone has a source for that, it'd be welcomed.

What I'd like to see are Soviet, Italian, German and Japanese newsreels and war films.




Restaurantor

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#6 12 years ago

I`m not against the propaganda thing, its just that the videos I saw when I bought that dvdset was so blatant and downright boring. Let`s upgrade the thread to clips that is in good quality, heh. Thanks for the recommendations.




Frenkan

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#7 12 years ago

Have to say that I completely disagree with you Restaurantor. I Haven't seen the whole World At War series but judging from the episodes I have seen I can clearly understand why this series is regarded as the best World War II documentary of all time. What distinguish this documentaries from many others are all the interviews with the people who actually were there. Not just the privates and drafted, but the commanders aswell. This just wasn't possible for the newer documentaries since many of the veterans who were interviewed for World of War are dead today (World At War was made 1974). The research they have made is also great and there were a great deal of things they showed which I didn't know before seeing it. The fact that there are so many episodes made it possible for them to show every little aspect of a battle. This meant talking about things other documentaries just didn't have time or space to bring up. As for the propaganda, it doesn't bother me. To be honest, I didn't think much of it at all. They might have portayed the Germans as evil incarnated (don't think they did) but it didn't affect the credibility of the series. You also have to remember that it was made in the 1970s, the scars from WW2 could still be felt. In conlclusion. From what I've seen a great documentary series, which I plan to get as soon as I can.

FuzzyBunny What I'd like to see are Soviet, Italian, German and Japanese newsreels and war films.

Agreed! Just as I would love to see more movies showing the war from said countries perspective. These movies would preferrably not be made by Hollywood. I enjoyed Stalingrad but it could be so much better.




Tanked

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#8 12 years ago

If its the same 'World at War' I'm thinking of then I think it was one of the best WW2 documentaries I've ever seen, have alook at this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War_%28TV_Series%29




jumjum

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#9 12 years ago

Oh dagnabbit, Frenkan and Tanked beat me to it. WAW is generally considered to be the most in-depth and accurate WWII documentary ever produced. And the "old Englishman" narrator was none other than Lord Olivier (Laurence Olivier), who was the premier actor-genius of his day. Besides, just as a paranoid can indeed have many people out to get him, propaganda can in fact be entirely accurate. If you want some dvd to praise Nazism and the pwning SS, you'll have to look for some skinhead sites.

Restauranteur, you had a rare vintage wine, which you spit out because it wasn't Boone's Farm. Too bad. I'm sure there are any number of FHers who will take those nasty old dvds off your hands.




Tanked

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#10 12 years ago

Agreed JumJum, the most memorable episodes for me were the ones regarding the North African fighting and the Okinawa one, all those mangled bodies and Japanese civilians throwing themselves off cliffs are unforgettable.