The forgotten heroes of the battle of Arnhem -1 reply

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Admiral Donutz VIP Member

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#1 14 years ago

A few days back the dutch televisio broadcasted part of a program (documentairy) about the polish (general Stanislaw Sosabowski). Yesterday they broadcasted the full version (1 hour). This short version (15-20 minutes) can be viewed online. http://www.netwerk.tv/index.jsp?p=items&r=deze_week&a=131724 chose the smalband (smallband) or breedband (broadband) connection. If you chose to save the file you can watch the movie at almost full size. Selecting full size on the video that is played in the popup will show a very blurry version. So my advice is to click the link, let the movie play for a few seconds and then select "save" then open that file and you will be able to play it in any media player (you need to have an internet connection though). The documentairy is in dutch but many parts are in english, and watching the black&white movies and other parts is very intresting wether you can understand the comment or not. Too bad that the full documentairy is not available too download/watch online. The videos you see are original black & white onces shoot during the battle, and parts of the movies "there is the glory (1945!!)" and "a bridge too far ([size=-1]1977)". [/size]




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#2 14 years ago

nice




Rikupsoni

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#3 14 years ago

Interesting, thanks




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#4 14 years ago

yes very Interesting, and that also reminds me to watch A bridge too far wich i haven't seen yet..




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#5 14 years ago

Din't understand many words..Some though, but was it abouy a polish general who became the blach sheep?




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#6 14 years ago

yup they had to blame somebody for the failure of operation Market Garden, and since General Sosabowski was not an "insider" and critizied monty's plan of OMG from the beginning the ebglish (Monty and others) blamed the failer (partly) on the polish.

Monty wrote that "the polish fought very badly" "and where not eager to fight" this is anything but true, the polish actually wanted to go to battle, they fought very bravely! The germans actually feared the polish more then the british since the polish where such relentless and brave fighters! The documentairy says mulitple times that the polish should get a medal, even after all those years to official recognize them.

Our queen asked to give the polish medals but the goverment refused :( . And after 1450 or so the goverment decided to not give any more medals (for bravery etc. in ww2) to fighters. The goverment of today (minister of defence) says that indeed the polish fought very bravely and that they should be recognized but that he won't reverse the disision that"no militairy medals are being award for ww2 events".

The prins (prins Bernhard, who experineced WW2) says that the polish deserve a medal. He married Juliana, the mother of Juliana was Wilhemina the queen of the netherlands during ww2. Wilhemina ask mulitple times (right after the war) to decorate the polish). But they refised, and the goverment as you have read refuses to give the decorations out now after so many years. :( Really sad, the polish heros of ww2 will never be officially recognized and decorated... the forgotten heroes.




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#7 14 years ago

From my understanding it was more the failure of the logistics planning behind getting the British 2nd Army up the single paved highway to Arnhem to relieve the British paras. That's too bad there is a controversy about the Poles, from what I have read they always gave their best fighting against the Germans who had subjugated their homeland.




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#8 14 years ago

From what I recall from the book and the movie (ABTF), the fighting around Arnhem was already very desperate when the Poles made their jump. They did fight very bravely, but many were slaughtered as they landed b/c the Germans had already taken their landing zones.




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#9 14 years ago
RaftermanFrom what I recall from the book and the movie (ABTF), the fighting around Arnhem was already very desperate when the Poles made their jump. They did fight very bravely, but many were slaughtered as they landed b/c the Germans had already taken their landing zones.

Correct, they fought bravely though.And by taking the southern bank of the (lower) rhine they allowed the Brits to retrait. Without the poles the Brits would have been totally whiped out at Oosterbeek.




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#10 14 years ago

Just watched it on the news, showed a medal for a commander that single handedly took out 2 german tanks, with complete disregard for his own safety, great stuff! :'(




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