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[nl]Invincible

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#1 12 years ago

Today 66 years ago, Rotterdam is bombed by the German Luftwaffe. This German Luftwaffe bombared the hard of rotterdam Destroying the whole historical center and with that his history. 24.000 buildings wher destroyed, 800 peaple got kiled, 80.000 peaple wher homless. I dont know if you guys ever read about it, but i stil thinks this is a pure terror bombardment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Rotterdam http://www.zum.de/whkmla/documents/rotterdam/xrotterdam1940.html




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#2 12 years ago

I know about it and agree with you. But still, the order came from Hitler, didn't it?




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#3 12 years ago

Ironically I read the bombing was not supposed to happen. The Germans had given an ultimatum to the Dutch to surrender, but they couldn't find the Dutch commander in time. Even though the surrender process was underway, news didn't reach the Luftwaffe in time, who proceeded with the bombing as previously ordered. At least, I think that's what happened. Can someone clear up for me?




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#4 12 years ago

Though I don't remember it compleately it seems you're right on this. Noting to add.




[nl]Invincible

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#5 12 years ago

As far i know, the dutch surendert in time but the news didnt reached the Luftwaffe in time. 90 heinkel 111 bombers wher already airborn, The luftwaffe would fire red lights if the atack was cancelt. the germans did this and the bombers teturned back to base only 36 bombers revused to go home. at least this is the story i have heard. Nobody realy knows it today, ther are stil discusions if this was terror bombarment or just a tactical mision.




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#6 12 years ago

Regardless, it was certainly had a large effect on the minds of other European nations. In France at the time it gave the French a first hint of what they saw as Nazi barbarism, and was a large factor in lowering public morale. Paris was declared an open city in order to prevent something like this. The effect on the Netherlands was so large as to almost singlehandedly knock mainland Netherlands out of the war and into German hands, no? It's just kind of unfortunate that the bombing was, in the end, not even meant to occur.




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#7 12 years ago

True, the story goes that 90 Bombers ( Heinkels 111 ) from flightgroup Kampfgeschwader 54 who were diveded into two groups ( Hohne 36 planes & Lackner 54 planes ) were planned to attack the centrum of Rotterdam with precious attack to inflict minumum damage but to take out any militairy strongpoints that were taken up by the Dutch soldiers, all according to General Student's plans.

Goering however, wanted the complete destruction of Rotterdam ( not just the centrum ) to show as a example to the rest of the world and to get a quicker capitulation from the Dutch.

According to the tales, The Germans sended the Dutch a Surrender letter which General Scharroo refused to sign because it was not signed correctly ( only said'' Signed, the commander of the German troops'' ), and was almost unreadable due the bad quality of the paper and spelling of the German.

General Scharroo then sended a letter back to the Germans where he requested a new surrendering letter, properly signed this time and decently written ( he himself said later this was also to buy time and setup his anti-tank guns closer near the ''Willemsbrug'' as he expected a German armored attack.

At 12.35 PM they recieved Gen.Scharroo's answer and decided to write a new surrending's letter with the time to surrender at 18:00 PM German time ( which is 16:20 Dutch Time ), however the planes from KG54 had already left their airfields and were underway to Rotterdam.

At 13:25 Dutch time, Gen.Scharroo recieved the new surrendering letter and decided to agree with the surrender of the city, he then went on towards ''Noordereiland'' in the company of Oberstleutnant Choltiz and his adjutant.

When they were near the Noordereiland they saw bombers from KG54 group Hohne in the aproching from the South, Von Choltitz quickly responded to this by letting out the order to shout out red flares, which were seen from by the group of Hohne.

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Oberst Hohne quickly gave the order to abort the bombing from his group, but for three planes the order came to late and they started there bombing with the results well known:

Over 800 people killed, more then 20,000 buildings destroyed, a destroyed city centre which would take years to be rebuild but couldn't be rebuilded in the hearts of those who lived there and a lot of pointing with fingers on who the actually one to blame for this all is.

bomber4025ox.th.jpg ''Haringvliet'' bomber4032es.th.jpg Point between ''Wijn-'' and ''Scheepmakershaven'' bomber4043ob.th.jpg ''Spaanschekade'' bomber4057lc.th.jpg German photo taken above Rotterdam, May 18th 1940 bomber4066lh.th.jpg Dark = Destroyed area bomber4074bv.th.jpg ''Jonker Fransstraat''




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#8 12 years ago
'[nlInvincible'] I dont know if you guys ever read about it, but i stil thinks this is a pure terror bombardment.

You mean like pretty much all bombardment of civilians for the sake of bombarding civilians (as opposed to, say, hitting civilian buildings while bombing an industrial center)?




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#9 12 years ago
FuzzyBunnyYou mean like pretty much all bombardment of civilians for the sake of bombarding civilians (as opposed to, say, hitting civilian buildings while bombing an industrial center)?

Excellent point. To me the idea of bombing Rotterdam or any part of the Netherlands is just so illogical and brutal that it makes no sense whatsoever. A true Klingon move to show that resistance was futile I suppose. Among the lessons to be learned is, unfortuantely, never let your defenses shrink to the point a potential enemy does not fear your response.




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#10 12 years ago

You mean there were just 3 bombers that destroyed Rotterdam almost entirely? All those innocent people :( To kill a man that has his rifle pointed at you, ready to kill you, is one thing, but killing hundreds of innocent, defenceless people is just disgusting