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#1 10 years ago

I recall seeing an extraordinary vid clip from soon after Coalition troops first entered Baghdad in Operation Iraqi Freedom but were still in significant combat. I can't seem to locate the clip anywhere.

It was of US (Army I think) troops in an area under some highway overpasses, and there was a wounded soldier being taken out on a stretcher. Suddenly this small group (which I guess included an embed reporter and camera crew) is attacked by a group of Saddam's fighters, some on foot, and some in a white truck which comes roaring up the street at them. The vid shows a very tense and hot firefight as the soldiers fire furiously but just can't seem to stop the truck. IIRC, even the wounded soldier on the stretcher sits up and joins in the firing at the truck. They finally stop the truck, all occupants apparently dead.

To me that is an astonishing piece of combat video. Does anyone 1) remember this vid, 2) and can you tell me where to find it? I've looked a a bunch of the usual places with no luck.




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#2 10 years ago

I think you are referring to the battle at Objective Curly. Haven't seen the video you are talking about although IIRC an NBC(?) crew filmed a lot of what happened at Objective Curly.

For some reason, the media fed us a line that the battle of Baghdad was a cakewalk.The first inkling that I got that it wasn't was reading this book: Thunder Run. And that's only about one part of the battle. I had no idea it was such a close-run thing...




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#3 10 years ago

I loved the Military Channels Documentary on First Tanks. However I havn't seen your video, sorry jumjum :( If you find it, send me a link! or point me in the right direction. I also suggest the documentary above. Its a great peace of video that takes you through the life of a reporter attached to First Tanks, he wrote a journal, I don't remember if he died or not. But the journal is narrated, and his Video is shown. Its really great stuff.




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#4 10 years ago

'[WDWMegaraptor;4355306']I think you are referring to the battle at Objective Curly. Haven't seen the video you are talking about although IIRC an NBC(?) crew filmed a lot of what happened at Objective Curly.

For some reason, the media fed us a line that the battle of Baghdad was a cakewalk.The first inkling that I got that it wasn't was reading this book: Thunder Run. And that's only about one part of the battle. I had no idea it was such a close-run thing...

10-4. As usual, with that hurry-and-get-the-scoop mentality that is apparently ingrained in all news media members, they see what they think is a trend, and based on that think they are justified in stretching things just a teensy-weensy bit, and report as fact what they expect to be the ultimate outcome, even though those things are still unsettled. It's all because of that "arc of the narrative" stuff they learned in the creative writing classes they took in college, back when they thought they would be the next Hemingway, and before they figured out they had to make a living. The "Thunder Run" is an excellent example of this kind of "report the trend as a done deal". It was a fine feat of arms, and shows what an aggressive commander can do when he seizes the initiative, but IIRC,the Run didn't result in US forces actually seizing and holding any significant amount of territory in the city. Seems we got some space at the airport, but we still had to fight there for many days. Much fighting followed.

BTW, Powerline is an outstanding page, and they have done yeoman's work, along with Blackfive, Captain's Quarters and Mudville Gazette, among others, in seeing that the names and courageous acts of the US fighting men in Iraq and Afghanistan are made known to the US public. Because the national news media sure as hell won't do it.

IIRC in over 5 years the national mainstream media has publicized only the award of the Medal of Honor to Sgt. Paul Smith and the Silver Star to Jessica Lynch (and then only as an adjunct to the "woman in combat" story), And not one single, solitary goddam thing else about acts of valor in those combat areas. They devoted far, far more resources and space to 24-7 coverage of the the dispatching of a wounded terrorist and the friendly fire death of Pat Tillman, than they did to acts of bravery under fire by US military members.

You see, if they did that uncool kind of "patriotic" reporting, the reporters from BBC, Reuters, AP and Agence France might not let them sit with them and all the other cool kids. God I detest them. It would almost be worth seeing sharia take over the earth, because they and the other useful idiots would be among the first to have their throats cut on worldwide satellite feed just before evening prayers.




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#5 10 years ago

Live Leak is where I'd look, probably includes the tag "thunder run"




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#6 10 years ago

Been there. But what I'm talking about isn't the Thunder Run.




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#7 9 years ago

Sorry for the necro-post, but I came across the thread again looking for something else, and I have to say [WDW]Megaraptor was exactly right. He suggested some MSNBC footage of the "Fight for Objective Curly" contained the bit I was looking for, where a wounded US soldier who is being carried off on a stretcher, raises up and fires his M-16 to take out some bad guys. Now that is damn close combat! It includes footage of a squad or so of soldiers and what looks like some Stryker and Bradley vehicles, and they seem to be more or less surrounded under a complex of highway overpasses and entrance- and off-ramps in the first day or so of US forces being in Baghdad in April 2003. The clip I'm talking about begins about 4:20 or just after: YouTube - Inside A Firefight: The Battle of Objective Curley

Thanks, Meg.




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#8 9 years ago

The part about the soldier jumping into the burning ammo-truck was more impressive if you ask me. The soldier on the stretcher seemed to fire more into the general direction of the enemy and his buddies didn't seem to be in a hurry either.

As for the Syrians and your comment in the youtube-section: There are those who want to destroy the US because of they hate your guts (e.g. Al Quaeda) but as soon as the war started there were also a lot of people who joined Iraq as they considered it their duty to defend any other muslim country from outside aggression. That's why Osama went to Afghanistan originally as well.

Not that there is always such a clear distinction, but I wouldn't throw all people who fight the US into one pot. There are different motivations and if Americans had understood them prior to invading Iraq you might be in a much better position in your war against terror now.




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#9 9 years ago
MrFancypants;4954459Not that there is always such a clear distinction, but I wouldn't throw all people who fight the US into one pot. There are different motivations and if Americans had understood them prior to invading Iraq you might be in a much better position in your war against terror now.

Totally correct. :cool:




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#10 9 years ago

None of which changes the fact that the usual suspects of the US media, and as I recall the BBCs and Reuters of the world as well, have in their recent attempt to recast historical fact repeated the absolute falsehood that Iraq was some sort of internecine squabble, and intentionally ignored the evidence that there were times during the combat in various locales that the foreign fighters outnumbered the domestically grown.




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