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Bourkey

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#51 13 years ago

Yeah I had a good read through this. My opinion is that this is one of those things that are like "oh well nothing too big to worry about". But then you look at the big picture and say, well where do we cross the line? Compare this to the whole genetic engineering debate. Yes totally different, but similar in complexity




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#52 13 years ago

I'm really suprised that anyone would defend this... apart from the spyware/EULA issue this directly impacts gameplay, and for FH fans, who surely have a 'more realism - more imersion' stance (even in a game set in a hypothetical future) then it's surely gonna annoy you.

1) as has been said the context of the ads (for 2006 products) will be completely at odds with a game set in the 22nd century.

2)The ads, which are chosen for each user on a geograhic basis, are different for each player, they are not the same for every player on the server - suddenly the battlefield is not the same for every player. I can stand in front of a dark advert thinking its camoflaging me, trouble is player x will be seeing a different ad, perhaps a pink one, against which i stand out like a saw thumb. The whole premise that the environment is the same for everyone has just been completely broken.




Safe-Keeper

Aw, c'mon Cyan, it's quality!

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#53 13 years ago
Thanks Russsian Crackers/Hackers for your work, what would we do with out you?!

Make more money and thus more fun games and movies for others to play and watch.

Yeah, thanks a lot, Russians:rolleyes:.

2)The ads, which are chosen for each user on a geograhic basis, are different for each player, they are not the same for every player on the server - suddenly the battlefield is not the same for every player. I can stand in front of a dark advert thinking its camoflaging me, trouble is player x will be seeing a different ad, perhaps a pink one, against which i stand out like a saw thumb. The whole premise that the environment is the same for everyone has just been completely broken.

That's actually a decent point.




Lupin

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#54 13 years ago

I just cant stress enough about how these dynamic ads are just a gateway for even more horrible in game advertisements. As I said before, how much longer until EA decides to put commercial breaks ingame?




foodmaniac2003

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#55 13 years ago
2)The ads, which are chosen for each user on a geograhic basis, are different for each player, they are not the same for every player on the server - suddenly the battlefield is not the same for every player. I can stand in front of a dark advert thinking its camoflaging me, trouble is player x will be seeing a different ad, perhaps a pink one, against which i stand out like a saw thumb. The whole premise that the environment is the same for everyone has just been completely broken.

I know that some people will be seeing porn ads :lol:




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#56 13 years ago
Jetro;3294596Ya pay for your cable and they cram 10 minutes per 30 of ads down your throat. You pay for a movie ticket and you get 20 minutes of previews and coke ads. You pay for a bus ticket and theres some make-up ad plastered on the side of the bus. You pay your ISP and half the internet sits around collecting your search habits.

Well, there sure is a difference. While playing a computer game, you obviously have to keep your eyes open and focus on a single certain spot in your room.

Cable? Does your cable company have any contracts with an ad company? You can also use a program to block ads on the net. Movie ticket? You can talk, you can close ya eyes and whatnot while waiting for the actual action to start. Bus ticket? Same thing, you're not forced to concentrate on a little spot, you can look anywhere and if the journey is long, you can close ya eyes or whatever fits your needs. Computer game? As I stated. You are forced to concentrate on a 17'' or 19'' monitor. No looking around, no eye closing.




wjlaslo

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#57 13 years ago

Well I hated the idea of BF2142 from the start. The advertisements quashed any thoughts about forgiveness and getting more than the demo. Spyware like this makes me want to go to court with them.




Jetro

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#58 13 years ago
WhiteShark;3299863 You are forced to concentrate on a 17'' or 19'' monitor. No looking around, no eye closing.

Point the reticle elsewhere?




charlesbian

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#59 13 years ago

1. Is EA a poor publisher? NO!

2. Is the game built off an entirely new engine created specifically for that game, and thus required a huge investment in time and money for that singular game? NO!

3. Is Dice a new, upstart company trying to get their name out there with a fresh, revolutionary new franchise that has yet to be established and is a risky venture, and thus needs additional revenue? NO!

4. Is there an altruistic purspose besides profit that would help the gaming community or the end consumer in anyway? NO!

5. Does the game cost ANY LESS for the consumer than a comparable game without in-game advertising? NO!

tell me why people need to feel obligated to defend this in-game advertisement. this is like defending a robber who hurt himself on a cactus plant while breaking into your house, and now is suing you for money.




Jetro

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#60 13 years ago

Because some people really don't care about the same pepsi ads that have been displayed everywhere since whenever and are otherwise ignored all the same.

And for clarification on the nature of BF2142's ad software:

The in-game advertisement is respectful of players' privacy: it never accesses files not directly related to the game, and it does not capture personal data such as cookies, account login detail, gameplay behaviour or surfing history. As it is an integrated part of Battlefield 2142 and not a separate program, it only runs when the game is running.

Because BF2142 delivers ads by region, the IP address of the player is used to determine the region of the player and helps serve ads by region and language; for instance, a player in Paris will be presented with ads in French. Note that this IP address is not stored on the advertisement server and is not repurposed for other uses.

A unique ID number is anonymously assigned the first time the player joins a Battlefield 2142 online game. It is stored locally on the PC but is not linked to any personal details.

The in-game advertisement gathers what we call "impression data", such as location of the billboard in the game or duration of advertisement impression. It helps see how many people have seen an ad - but not who has seen it.

We are also conscious that the advertisement shouldn’t distract the player from the overall gaming experience, so all ads fit in the unique environment of each level in the game. The content of the ads is also controlled to ensure that no offensive content is displayed in Battlefield 2142.

We all hope that this explanation will address recent concerns on the advertisement in Battlefield 2142. See you on the Battlefield.

- The Dice Live Team