WHY DID ww2 loosers become so strong? -1 reply

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[21Pz]Stauffenberg

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#1 13 years ago

I just wonder what is your opinion what is the reason that the main causers and big loosers of ww2 (ger,jap) became so industrial strong while countries like UK had so much trouble and problems for example under Thatcher




[130pz.]Kading

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#2 13 years ago

there are two resons for that. the first aplies to both and that is that they didnt need to spend so much of their GNP on war and could focus on peacefull developments. the second reson is a two-parter. for japan there has always been a drive to succede that is lacking in most western cultures. the germans have always been famous for their efficiency in the workplace and consequently they are one of the top industrial powers in the world today. remember, just because you lose a war doesnt meen you lose the peace.




Gocad

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#3 13 years ago
'[21PzStauffenberg']I just wonder what is your opinion what is the reason that the main causers and big loosers of ww2 (ger,jap) became so industrial strong while countries like UK had so much trouble and problems for example under Thatcher

Uhm, Thatcher was some 40 years after WWII...things can change quite a lot during a few decades.

Germany and Japan had the possiblity to start over after WWII, since most of their pre-war structure was destroyed, and yeah, they had other problems than remaining a world power or keeping their colonies like GB or France.




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#4 13 years ago

hm that might be a reason, and the thing with thatcher, i only said it as an example for generally bad situation in GB in the time after the war till now




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#5 13 years ago

the reason is is that US, britain and other allied countries spent a lot of money to beuild the former axis countries so that they dont have a repeat of another world war. You always treat the loosers as if they had one the war.




Blame Canada

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#6 13 years ago

As mentioned above: The industry in Germany and Japan was bombed back to age zero... while most British and French industry survived relatively unharmed. Therefore the former axis countries could start all over and modernize their industry, while Britain (as an example) still had industry which dated back before WWI!!! It's not easy for politicians to shut down an industrie (in order to make space for a newer) that gives job to a lot of people, which is partly why British industry had so difficult to adjust. Hope my rather awfull English didn't destroy that explanation :uhm:




The American Way

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#7 13 years ago
Blame CanadaAs mentioned above: The industry in Germany and Japan was bombed back to age zero... while most British and French industry survived relatively unharmed. Therefore the former axis countries could start all over and modernize their industry, while Britain (as an example) still had industry which dated back before WWI!!! It's not easy for politicians to shut down an industrie (in order to make space for a newer) that gives job to a lot of people, which is partly why British industry had so difficult to adjust. Hope my rather awfull English didn't destroy that explanation :uhm:

It's actually quite good English, better than most native English speakers when they type.




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#8 13 years ago

Read up on the Marshall Plan. It pumped millions of dollars into Europe and Japan to rebuild.

The Marshall Plan, known officially following its enactment as the European Recovery Program (ERP), was the main plan of the United States for the reconstruction of Europe following World War II. The initiative was named for United States Secretary of State George Marshall.

Between 1948 and 1951, the United States contributed more than $13 billion (nearly $100 billion at 2005 U.S. conversion rates) of economic and technical assistance toward the recovery of 16 European countries which had joined in the Organization for European Economic Cooperation (OEEC, forerunner to today's OECD) in response to Marshall's call for a joint scheme for European reconstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

The US invested lots of money to rebuild Europe and Japan. The US wanted to build a strong economy and industry in Western Europe again to deter what was percieved as "The Red Menace". At the time it was believed Stalin was wanting to invade western Europe and conqueor all of Europe under Soviet control.

I believe to a lesser extent this was true in Japan as well. The US saw the Soviets in the Northern japanese Isles as a threat and wanted to build a strong economy and industry.

Besides developing Europe and Japan into strong economies would open up markets for US merchandise.

What really hurt Britain was

A) Trying to retain her Colonies overseas

B) The US cut off lend lease aid before the UK had time to switch from a war economy to a peace time economy.

Supposedly Churchill had asked for and had a understanding with Roosevelt that when the war ended the US would end the shipment of supplies to the UK slowly so as England had time to convert from war production to peacetime production and home goods and such.

For whatever reason after Roosevelt died and Truman came into power Truman apparently did not follow this agreement and cut off supplies to England abruptly which crashed the English economy. Rationing of items did not end completely til 1954.

Also per the agreement with Roosevelt and Churchill the US was supposed to share all technology on the nuclear bomb which the UK sank alot of money into. Truman also apparently refused to honor this agreement and refused to share the technology making the US the worlds only nuclear power. The UK still developed and tested their own atomic bomb in 1950.