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Archimonde0_0

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#1 10 years ago

I believe we should start a sticky thread here, where all of us can come together to discuss every aspect of world war two, with our own interpretations of the history, our feelings on different weapons, our views about the countrys, their politics, and their leaders. Discuss our favorite battles, battles that are in the mod, our favorite vehicles, weapons, and items of world war two. While at the same time maintaining a mature state of discussion, this means no Ranting, or Insiting that you are correct, Offer an alternate opinion and back it up with research, links, and information about your claims, do not just post a reply saying "I'M RIGHT AND I KNOW IT!". Talk about anything war related, but offer up plenty of real information, and sources, so that new comers to the war, its history, and its technology can read, watch, and listen their way to being World War Two guru's, like I know some people here are. Lets Begin: Here is a brief timeline consisting of dates and events from the end of World War One, to the end of World War Two, gotten off "The History Place" The History Place - World War Two in Europe Timeline An Alternate Timeline for comparison: University of Pheonix World War 2 Timeline Also on that same page from the University of Pheonix is numerous links to different topics on World War Two, and at this time I'd also like to post my pick for my favorite vehicle of World War Two: The Kleines Kettenkraftrad HK 101 (Ketten = tracks Krad = abbreviation of Kraftrad or Motorcycle in german.) http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/june/armor/kettenkrad-05.jpg or also know as the Sdkfz 2 Manufacturer: NSU Motorenwerke AG and Stoewer Theatres of War: North Africa, and Europe Attachments: Sd.Anh. 1 trailer for increased cargo capacity Engine: Watercooled four cylinder in-line engine with, Manufacturer: Opel (GM), with a 6 speed gearbox, and a single plate dry clutch. Power: 36 bhp at 3400 rpm Top Speed: Just about 44 mp/h, or 70 km/h Approximate Weight: 3500 Lbs Crew: Driver and 2 Passengers The Kettenkrad would see service both in North Africa and Europe, and would later be produced for agricultural needs. Thats my post, Now get to the world war two history boys! but remember, lets keep it civil so the administrators don't shut it down!




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#2 10 years ago

"Not a step backwards"

There lies the clue to my, ... I want to say 'favorite', but that's a shameful word to label a battle that I had no part in and this battle in it's very nature was simply an attrition of human sacrifice so appalling that it should never be labeled a favorite.

It's true that Stalingrad was a strategic communications strong point for Russia's south, and led the way to the oilfields in the Caucasus region. But by all accounts this was simply a battle between two megalomaniacs over a city that held the name Stalingrad. Joseph Stalins orders "not one step back!" And Hitlers orders "fight to the last bullet!" - encapsulate the notion that this was going to be nothing short of suicide for any man unfortunate enough to be thrown into the mix.

Surrounded and outnumbered by a million strong Russian army, to be a German soldier fighting in Stalingrad must have been the most upsetting experience that such a nation of proud soldiers could face, how soul destroying to know your demise was imminent weeks before hand - that you had no chance of escape, you will never see home again, your last vision would most likely be the wretched gutted streets of a city you never considered you would visit and would never hope to return to.

"I was horrified when I saw the map. We're quite alone, without any help from outside. Hitler has left us in the lurch. Whether this letter gets away depends on whether we still hold the airfield. We are lying in the north of the city. The men in my unit already suspect the truth, but they aren't so exactly informed as I am. No, we are not going to be captured. When Stalingrad falls you will hear and read about it. Then you will know that I shall not return." - German Soldier writing a letter home.

In retaliation after FM Paulus disobeyed his direct orders from Hitler and surrendered, the Russians made the 91000 German soldiers march across Siberia where on route 45000 died. How can it be that the world we are born into could ever descend into such hatred for one another, that nation to nation could impose such suffering on it's fellow men without thought of forgiveness or redemption. Our ancestors were barbaric with the equipment to do barbaric things, perhaps it's the mass scale of suffering that World War 2 (and 1) project onto the psyche that leave me with such sadness. I watch hundreds of war programs yet still strain to understand "why" we could do that to each other.

for some light reading on the battle of Stalingrad turn to page 2 of your internet...

Battle of Stalingrad Stalingrad




Spencer the Great

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#3 10 years ago

as long as you know whats true and what may be sketchy, wikipedia is an interesting source too. I am still very impressed by the templates and manual of style they use on wikipedia though. A good comical read would be the article about the Winter War. Molotov and Ribbentrop sign the Nazi-Soivet Non-aggression Pact and as a side note Ribbentrop tells Molotov he could "have" Finland. When the Red Army moves in the Finns are like "WTF" Russia sarcastically answers "didn't you get the memo?"

JumJum I need your help! I used the word "like" as a quotative and it irritates me very much. I just can't seem to find another word! What do you think it should read?




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#4 10 years ago

We won, they lost.

End of this mornings interpretation. ;)




[WOLF] Ionizer

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#5 10 years ago

Sucks that his got transfered to Off Topic, not as many people will see it.




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#6 10 years ago
'[WOLF Ionizer;4249580']Sucks that his got transfered to Off Topic, not as many people will see it.

It has nothing to do with FH. Anyway, all the regular members still visit Off Topic frequently, so it should be alright.




Archimonde0_0

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#7 10 years ago

Well i can see this clearly failed miserably. Originally the idea for starting this thread was to educate the FH2 community a little bit so you Developers would have a little less frustration from the constant repetetive posts on topics that have been well and long discussed before. Moving it here halts that effort. But i will not turn this into a argument thread, if you feel it should be here than it will be here, nothing i can do about it. I just feel if the FH2 community, if educated on the background that formed the mod, would feel more comfortable with the way the mod was designed.