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stylie

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#1 9 years ago

There was a ridiculously douchey "Inside the Obama Whitehouse" show on last night, with the most embarassingly ass-smooching interviewer. He was even kissing the ass of the royal dog. Even though I felt nauseous the whole time, Politics and elections were a very big deal in my house when I was 8 years old. I was born in 73 and I have very clear memories of political and current events from before 1980. I remember clearly the assasinations and attempts of the Pope, Reagan, Anwar Sadat, John Lennon. I remember Granada, Tha Faulklands and Libya and Lebanon. The news was "on" at my house and I was watching it. I remember watching speeches of Jimmy Carter for gods sake, but not Ford. So last night I sat with the kids and didnt bash OB once. I spoke nothing but good things about the President and the First Lady and of the Presidency. I was reminded of the guy sitting next to me berating his 6 or 7 year old daughter for making mistakes on the tee-ball field, I almost punched him in his face. At this age. It is more important to instill love and respect for these things. Doing the right thing at a tee-ball game is less important to me that just having a good time... putting on the uniform... the hat... experiencing what it means to be on a team... take a ball to the face because you werent paying attention... then recovering and making a fantastic stop... that was priceless. And the same goes for me. I will not speak my political views to them until they are ready to discuss the details... for now its just summarizing and familiarity that are important to me.




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#2 9 years ago
stylie;4906732...At this age. It is more important to instill love and respect for these things. Doing the right thing at a tee-ball game is less important to me that just having a good time... putting on the uniform... the hat... experiencing what it means to be on a team... take a ball to the face because you werent paying attention... then recovering and making a fantastic stop... that was priceless. And the same goes for me. I will not speak my political views to them until they are ready to discuss the details... for now its just summarizing and familiarity that are important to me.

I am proud of you, but not in the least surprised. You kind of get to know somebody after a few years, even online.

And I couldn't agree more. It's awfully unattractive to see kids who have no understanding of what they're saying start parroting ugly political trash-talking. We have to teach them to respect the institutions - like the Major Winters and Captain Sobel saluting incident. Nor should we bring the kids into adult discussions and political differences. And personally you can disagree with an office-holder about every policy - you can even hope they fail in their attempt to implement policies with which you disagree. But there is a standard of respect that must be given the office.

You're doing exactly what I did. Now my kids are old enough to discuss any political subject, and do, and they often disagree with the Old Grouch. The only thing that might have been cheating was to try to subliminally train them by playing a loop tape in their baby beds that said, "The greatest political figure in the history of the universe is Ronald Reagan." I don't think it took.




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#3 9 years ago

This fat fuck was literally turning red in the face yelling at her. And for what?!? Its a fracking t-ball game for christs sake. For the euro-set...

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There is no pitching. There are no outs. The kids play 4 innings. One inning is the entire roster 1 time through. Then everyone runs home. This is not the typical liberal "We dont want our players to feel shame about losing" stuff. These kids are too young to play the game the right way, so thats the way we do it. Its just to experience the sport and get their feet wet. Next year is real baseball. Anyways, why would the guy be like this? ity happened just as I showed up. If it happened again, there was going to be words. But as it turned out, she played better and he was praising her. I couldnt help to see her visibly embarrased by the tounge lashing he gave her. But the praise bit settled me down. I was practically wishing he would do it again. But he did not. Maybe I have to get used to stricter parents.. I dont know. All I know is his statements should have been reserved for a much older more understanding child, not a 6 year old. Our kid was drawing in the dirt while playing shortstop for christs sake, and you know... I loved it! But thats when he got hit in the face. I didnt say a word, the coaches were checking him out. He wasnt crying and it got his attention, he played with his head up after that. No intervention needed.




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#4 9 years ago
jumjum;4906877The only thing that might have been cheating was to try to subliminally train them by playing a loop tape in their baby beds that said, "The greatest political figure in the history of the universe is Ronald Reagan." I don't think it took.

Ah, that's the problem, you pronounced 'Keir Hardie' wrong. Worked fine on me :)

In seriousness, I must admit I was brought up in a largely openly left-wing household. The Tory government for the first seven years of my life did get a bit of a battering, but that was largely because they were getting one every single day from everyone else. The institutions and top men themselves though never came in for a direct mauling from Papa, though. The only trouble is 'Tory' and 'little Tory' have become somewhat more divorced from the Conservative Party over here than words like 'Republican' and 'Democrat' in the US. So those were bandied out a lot more freely to describe anyone particularly NIMBY-ish or closed-minded. Did it give me an ingrained dislike of Tories? Probably, but mainly of the Tories that I had grown up knowing that the word referred to.

I do intend to pass my views onto my kids, but as you two fine gentlemen have said, not before they're old enough to understand it. If I get questions about it as they start wondering what 'left wing' or 'right wing' mean, or who the 'conversatives' are, I'll answer them in an impartial manner.

On another note, I voted for the first time today. Euro elections. Went with Labour - we need all the votes we can get right now so we're still a big enough force in politics to actually reform and get back to our roots as a part of the people. Here's to the BNP getting what they deserve (nothing).




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#5 9 years ago
Meadow;4906945....On another note, I voted for the first time today...

Good on you, lad. Have a pint and make another video!

Which reminds me: I never watched you "long" vid. Can you post the link?




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#6 9 years ago
Meadow;4906945On another note, I voted for the first time today. Euro elections. Went with Labour - we need all the votes we can get right now so we're still a big enough force in politics to actually reform and get back to our roots as a part of the people. Here's to the BNP getting what they deserve (nothing).

And it feels good to vote doesnt it? Sadly I messed up big time. I did not vote in the presidential elections. Funny for all of the bitching I do, but There was no way in hell my vote would have mattered much. PA went in a landslide to Obama. I had done everything I could to get registered, even went to the courthouse, I did not use the mail or anything. What I had forgotten was that I was to be in Chicago for training during that week in November. I didnt even think about the fact I would have been away during the elections until maybe a day before I left. i feel like crap about that one. I never made up my mind anyway. There was no telling who I would have voted for.




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#7 9 years ago

I was lucky in this matter of political parroting. I'm fifteen years old, and both my parents and I followed the American campaign with great interest, due to them being so exciting compared to ours. (One barely notices the prime minister's election, they're rather tame in comparison) Anyway, most of the kids in my school knew about Barrack Obama, and the majority were wild about him, some even having rather tacky shirts with his likeness. The more conservative of children, or should I say, those with more conservative parents, were convinced that the man was the Anti-Christ.

And I realized that they were all idiots who had all just followed their parent's opinions, or the crowd's, be it for or against Obama. The reason I am lucky is because, well, A: I read, or try to read, the Economist, which is very straight and factful. The other reason is that my mum prefered McCain, and my father Obama, and they are usually split in our home elections as well, so I've come to realize how polotics are done in this day and age with little thinking of who is the right choice, but simply who their freinds and family prefer. At school, we've been taught that not voting is the only way to undermine democracy, and I've come to think that the real way is letting idiots have a say in policy.




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#8 9 years ago
stylie;4906992And it feels good to vote doesnt it? Sadly I messed up big time. I did not vote in the presidential elections. Funny for all of the bitching I do, but There was no way in hell my vote would have mattered much. PA went in a landslide to Obama. I had done everything I could to get registered, even went to the courthouse, I did not use the mail or anything. What I had forgotten was that I was to be in Chicago for training during that week in November. I didnt even think about the fact I would have been away during the elections until maybe a day before I left. i feel like crap about that one. I never made up my mind anyway. There was no telling who I would have voted for.

It could've been worse.

I voted for Ron Paul (first time voting) so now I'm probably on some government "domestic terrorist" watch list.

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#9 9 years ago

I wrote in Theodore Roosevelt's Reanimated Corpse for President, and William Jennings Bryan's corpse for Vice President. I honestly think that would have been better then either candidate. I even got 2 other people to do it :)




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#10 9 years ago

I've read this through three times, and I still don't get the point of this thread. Is it about Tee-ball, making snide remarks about Barack Obama, or expression of political dogma?