Alright, We all know that the Orginal Forgotten Hope has Anti-Tank Rifles in it... And I'm pretty certain FH2 will employ them to, but how effective should they be, because generally speaking they are heavy, cumbersome, and ineffective against strong thick armor. I haven't played FH yet but from what I've read, they are generally ineffective against most tanks and as I see it, that make since... In FH2, I think it should stay that way, where there's only certain areas on a tank where it is effective to a noticable point, such as the Engine Grill located on the rear of the tank and other area's of the tank. Tracks on tanks should be disabled by well placed shot. I don't think it could be coded. but possibly angle of hit, such as a 90 degree hit will penetrate more than a 60 degree hit and so on. And of course depending on the caliber and range of the shot should effect the damage. As for lighter vehicles(Scout Cars, Transport, APC's, etc.) Depending on the type, any shot with a AT Rifle to the engine block of a vehicle should disable it and the vehicle should stop when friction fricton catches up to it. Shot's to the cab should either kill or heavily wound anyone in the cab, and so on. You should get the Idea by now, rounds to the wheels should either cause it to stop or it to loss control to a point where it's next to impossible to keep in on course. Other Targets should also be prone to damage from AT rifles, MG nest, planes, smaller watercraft, etc. should be disabled from a well placed shot. Movement with most AT Rifle can be done single handedly for the purpose of gameplay, but it should make the player move alittle slower than others. And of course you'll be able to transfer them quicker using vehicles... One Rifle that is not featured in FH which I think they should in FH2 is the Lathi L-39 for the Finland Army, this rifle was an extremly large 20mm rifle used by the Finland Army, because of it's weight it couldn't generally be moved by hand, but was usually transported by a vehicle to the area it was needed, then could be dragged around to areas near by. If FH2 could do this, it would be awsome, where you deploy just like a deployable MG then it could be dragged around small distances by soldiers, and later on picked up by a vehicle if it was to me moved over great distances. It was also used as a stationary weapon and AA gun in WW2. Here's a picture
There has already been 1 AT rifle already shown in a news update There are a few AT rifles that are innefective, but also a few that are effective. The german M35 will work on early war tanks, trucks, jeeps etc, but nothing else. The russian PTRD, & PTRS are the best AT rifles currently in FH and will damage a tank up to a Pz 4, maybe Panther from side or rear? It's been a while.
The British Boys AT rifle sucks against everything.
So it's a mixed bag when it comes to AT rifles. I don't mind. :D
Looks good, and seems to be a pretty good replica of the real thing... http://www.antitank.co.uk/german1.htm Only thing i like to see is alittle more wear showing, it almost looks factory fresh, can't wait to hear it though...
I didn't make it!
Just how specific can the B2 engine be for armor? I mean does it make a difference if you shoot the engine grill not? I know in FH it is fairly localized but the more localization of armor the better.
Definitly, Localization on Armor is something that really helps with bringing games to a more realistic type experince, because we all know that to destroy a tank, etc. Hitting it in the right place is vital.
I like your idea about shots to the cab with an AT rifle killing or wounding whoever's inside I just hope the same feature is implamented with heavy mg's like the .50 cal.
I take what n0e says way too seriously
9th April 2005
while we are on this subject, i suggest, in addition to the ones mentioned above, that one hit anywhere on an enemy soldier from an anti-tank rifle should kill him. the simple fact is that if you are hit by a high-velocity round that is ment to penetrate tank armor, you are down for the count no matter where you are hit. IRL (yes, i have done research to back this up) if you are hit in the hand by such a weapon, you lose your arm. if you are hit in the chest, your torso explodes from the energy released into your tissue.
there is a video on YouTube that shows the effect of a .50 calibre rifle on humans. just search for "sniper" on that site. i did not post the link because it would violate forum rules.
I pretend I'm cooler than AzH
3rd September 2005
OMG!!! http://www.antitank.co.uk/finland.htm scroll down to a pick with a guy shooting it. its fucking GIANT!!!!!:eek:
'[130pz.Kading']there is a video on YouTube that shows the effect of a .50 calibre rifle on humans. just search for "sniper" on that site. i did not post the link because it would violate forum rules.
You do know that those guys are shooting feral dogs and prairie dogs... right? If that's the video you're thinking off... it's a common misconception. It's just a bunch of sick guys shooting some poor animals, and then posting it as a video of Iraqi or Afghan insurgents getting slaughtered.
If that's not the video, then I apologize.