Anti-Tank/Armor Rifles Use For FH2 -1 reply

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Solo4114

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#111 14 years ago

Well, sometimes the Germans are gonna lose. That's just how it goes. On a well balanced map, they'll have a pretty even chance at the start of the map. Maybe that's because they've got a few heavy tanks and some medium tanks backing them up, or maybe it'll be because they've got the high ground and good defenses.

I do get tired of Germans getting one or two super tanks vs. the Allies' 15 weeniemobiles. I'd say the better approach is to make artillery and anti-tank guns more of a factor on maps.

That said, I have to ask you, what do you define as "frustrating" for the Germans? If you mean "losing", I'd say get used to it, 'cause it's gonna happen. If you mean "losing cheap and feeling like you never had a chance" well I'd say that applies to EVERYONE not just the Germans.

My interest is broader than simply making sure the Germans are happy and content. I'd rather make sure everyone can have a good game on either side in any map, rather than one side having stupid disadvantages to the point where you throw your hands up and say "Oh for chrissakes, why are we even BOTHERING playing this map??"




Lobo

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#112 14 years ago
PietjeAlso the Allies will highly likely receive better tanks in FH2, so i wouldnt mind seeing some map balancing in favor of the Germans, especially early war.

No, that's imposible, our plan is the germans will loose 50% of times :rolleyes:




Pietje

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#113 14 years ago

FuzzyBunnyAgain, balanced != even. I enjoy playing on the disadvantaged side of my team's not a total bunch of numbnuts, because it provides me with a challenge. Turkey shoots bore me (e.g. German mortars on Pegasus), evenly matched head-on fights can be fun from time to time (Prokhorovka), but pulling off a victory in the face of stupid odds is pretty gratifying; I don't care what team I'm on.[/QUOTE] I dislike pegasus due to amount of artillery and due to the typical stupidity of my team. But thats just me. Although i have to admit that i have to agree with you when it comes to turkey shooting. I like a little challenge myself, as long as its doable. :)

Although i have to say that i play as Germans primarily because but few WW2 games allow you to. And mostly because i am fairly interested in German equipment from WW2.

I am. My point is that advantages/disadvantages need to be considered on a per-scenario basis. Despite what people say about the G43 vs. SVT-40 or K98 vs. Garand or No4, I enjoy playing both German and Allies on Zielona Gora, Gold Beach and Charlie Sector. Despite Allied infantry weapon superiority, I find these maps to be pretty balanced.
I cannot really comment on this as i rarely play these maps.
Got a source for that? Wikipedia thinks differently (I assume you mean the Su-76M here.)

Yes, you seem to be correct. I probably confused it with something else. :uhm: Although i wouldnt rely too much on wikipedia though. Some things arent entirely correct.

I'd prefer to see the Hs-129 used for ground attack, even though not so many were built, and the Fi-156 and Fw-189 for closer infantry recon/support.
Yeah but the FW-190 would be great aswell. mostly because it would be great to have a fighter/bomber for the Germans for once. Ah, you mean F-0 series? Armed with machineguns in the side windows or sometimes forward and several bomb rackets? And was designed Counter-insurgency (Polizei)? If so then HELL YEAH! Or the U series? Wich was armed with a depth charge and designed for anti-submarine duties? Or are you talking about the Henschel-126? Regardless i would love to see the Fieseler 156 added though. Especially the ambulance variety. [QUOTE=Lobo]No, that's imposible, our plan is the germans will loose 50% of times roll%20eyes%20(sarcastic).gif

Lobo, you know very well what i mean. :)




Fuzzy Bunny

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#114 14 years ago
Pietje I like a little challenge myself, as long as its doable.

There, we agree. You got it, congrats! :-)

Although i wouldnt rely too much on wikipedia though. Some things arent entirely correct.

For technical/equipment-specific entries, it's usually pretty bang-on--it's in the more controversial topics (see for example the Wikipedia fascism project) where the whole community thing can get ugly.

This is mainly because the equipment geeks who do most of the weapons entries tend to be very thorough.

Ah, you mean F-0 series? Armed with machineguns in the side windows or sometimes forward and several bomb rackets? And was designed Counter-insurgency (Polizei)? If so then HELL YEAH! Or the U series? Wich was armed with a depth charge and designed for anti-submarine duties?

Or are you talking about the Henschel-126? Regardless i would love to see the Fieseler 156 added though. Especially the ambulance variety.

Sorry, I was talking about a mix of ground support-related aircraft roles--not just "ground attack". I would love the Hs-129 as a tank buster/ground attack craft, and the Storch & FW-189 as liaison/recon aircraft, respectively. The Hs-123 would also be pretty cool as an early war ground attack aircraft (just because I like biplanes.)




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#115 14 years ago
FuzzyBunnyThere, we agree. You got it, congrats! :-)

Why, thank you, Fuzzy Bunny. It was a tough thing to do but i succeeded. :)

For technical/equipment-specific entries, it's usually pretty bang-on--it's in the more controversial topics (see for example the Wikipedia fascism project) where the whole community thing can get ugly. This is mainly because the equipment geeks who do most of the weapons entries tend to be very thorough.

True, that, i am generally fairly satisfied when i search Wikipedia for information on things like Ultra light planes and such. But i generally get a bad feeling when i search Wikipedia for WW2 related information.

Sorry, I was talking about a mix of ground support-related aircraft roles--not just "ground attack". I would love the Hs-129 as a tank buster/ground attack craft, and the Storch & FW-189 as liaison/recon aircraft, respectively. The Hs-123 would also be pretty cool as an early war ground attack aircraft (just because I like biplanes.)

Well the Focke Wulf 189 and the Henschel 126 where both used sometimes as ground attack planes. They also where equipped with bomb racks. Also the Henschel 123 was used untill late 1944 when there where none left. Mostly because the Germans couldnt develop a plane that could replace it.




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#116 14 years ago

ONLY thing i care about is if the AT rifles at least penetrate the sheilding on AT guns/AA guns. i was playing tobruck last night and the axis AT rifle couldnt pierce the protective sheild on the aussie AT guns. were they THAT weak, or was the sheild THAT strong?




Ukko-Pekka

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#117 14 years ago

I´M not sure if someone already mentioned this about L-39/Lahti-antitankrifle/Norsupyssy (elephantgun) but still I´m gonna say this :rolleyes: L-39 was semiautomatick, and the AA version was fully automatick. L3944_2.jpg AA version It was sayed that L-39´s kick was so heavy that it could break the collar-bone of the shootter...