Today, while watching something on the History Channel called Tales From the Gun, I was reminded of one of the tatic used out of japanese desparation. The Aircraft Bomb AT Mine. What would happen is that the Japanese to combat US tanks, would actually have traps, where they buried a 100kg bomb, and had a guy with a hammer next to it. The unlucky man would strike the bomb with the hammer when a tank came over to hopefuly detonate the tank. Maybe we could have this as a pick-up kit, or it could be deployed by a vehicle? I do not want them to be very obvious looking, or tankers could easily see where they are. How would it look like underground: It would be dark, with very little light. The sides of the hole would be sloping downward. You would see and aircraft bomb in front of you. On top of you would be maybe some logs with camoflauge or just dirt if you deploy it on a road. How would you know what's coming over? There would be a crack. At the top. A very small crack. Just big enough for you to see whats coming over. Like feet passing across or if its a tank just a large green object and treads. It would also be pretty cool if while you were about to detonate yourself and the bomb by striking it with a hammer, you yell something like "Banzai!" or something like that. :naughty: The tank on top of the trap would only hear a a dulled out "Banzai" as a warning of his imminent doom, then very quickly, a "Boom!" I would not like them to been placed somewhere then respawn over and over, because then the Allies could just memorize where these bombs are and it would ruin the realism that it was a trap.
i saw that too. i think the ohka and the banzai charge is enough suicide for the poor japanese. i think that what we really need for the japanese, is for Iwo Jima to be beafed up. syrabachi needs to have underground bunkers with machine guns galore.
edit: for the bomb idea though, maybe it could just be sitting there in a ditch or wutever and if a tank hits it, BOOM!!!
I'm having a really hard time to decide which of the 5 latest suggestions was the worst.
It was used in the war quite a bit I believe and we already have this:
You only get full credit for a banzai charge suicide bomb if you're in mid-air when it detonates.
The problem, as you said, is that it'd be easy to avoid it once you knew where it was. And Battlefield 2 doesn't support randomization, to the best of my knowledge, so it'd not be a too easy implementation.
I think the best way to do it would be a flat model on the ground that looked like the top of the buried "bunker". Deploy it with the Sapper infantry class or with a truck. Then you could enter it as a vehicle and blow it and you to the Hot Place when the tank arrived. But then you've got the problem with explaining how the truck or sapper digs a hole, inserts a 100kg bomb into it, and camouflages it in one second.
Maybe it could be like the buildings in the old Empires mod for Battlefield 1942? It's deployed and then needs to be "prepared" by means of a tool of some kind before it can be used (in Empires, you had to have an engineer "repair" the buildings you spawned before you could use them)?
Ok, maybe it should really get implemented, for realities sake. The bomb should be placed on a truck or another vehicle. When you think you have found a nice location to place you can drop it there. After you drove away your vehicle (not a must, but for better camoflage I'd do so) you are able to enter the big "100kg aircarft bomb at mine". Of course this should take 4-6 minutes, maybe even longer if you placed the bomb on hard rocky ground. If I think about digging a one man hole also I'd say we make it 15min (I know that you won't dig such a whole in that short a time, but hey, it's still a game). After you finally entered your bomb, all you have to do is to wait for enemy tanks. Hell yeah, the more the better. You will most likely blow up everything in a radius of 100 meters. My god, this new weapon will be the shit.
Edit: Let's get it on. The Keeper and I have the same thoughts about that monter of a AT mine. It shouldn't be hard to code.
Safe Keeper But then you've got the problem with explaining how the truck or sapper digs a hole, inserts a 100kg bomb into it, and camouflages it in one second.
I realise that but this is after all, the Battlefield universe. Something could be figured out. Im not so sure knoffhoff's idea about about 4-5minutes to deploy though. You could easily be killed within that long of a time.It shouldn't be too long because these maps actually represent batles that took days, weeks, and even months to win. It's just like the gasoline thread, the maps actualy represent something much larger.
I really wish you had not seriously made this suggestion. I'm gonna cry. the future of our world is in your hands, Foodie, and I think I am losing hope for all of humanity. you are going to kill us all! So let me get this right, tex, you think it would be fun to go hide in a hole and wait for a tank to come by, just so you can blow yourself up? Why dont you start hiding right now? I think I hear a rumblin'.
I really wish you had not seriously made this suggestion. I'm gonna cry.
So in this world of morons protecting the deliberate bombing of Red Crescent ambulances and a UN outpost in Lebanon, this is what makes you cry? All I can say is that you live one sheltered life. I envy you! [/shameless teasing:p]
Silent Heroes allowed you to hide mines under the ground so that only the top of them (the detonator) was visible. How did they do this? Simple: They modelled only the top of the mine. Same with this thing: Just model something flat that looks like an underground "bomb pit". Plain and simple.
Of course this should take 4-6 minutes, maybe even longer if you placed the bomb on hard rocky ground. If I think about digging a one man hole also I'd say we make it 15min (I know that you won't dig such a whole in that short a time, but hey, it's still a game). After you finally entered your bomb, all you have to do is to wait for enemy tanks. Hell yeah, the more the better. You will most likely blow up everything in a radius of 100 meters. My god, this new weapon will be the shit.
Do I smell sarcasm;)?
It wouldn't have to take long time at all. This is the game where you repair critically damaged battleships in a matter of minutes when it should take months, you know.
The best way to do it, I believe, is to have it accessible immediately, but with 0 ammunition loaded for the bomb. Then the bomb needs to load, and then, when it's loaded, you can blow the place up.