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foodmaniac2003

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#1 12 years ago

I think this would a totally amazing map.

What happened was that the Chinese held on to the Sihang ware house in Shanghai. It is quite similar to Pavlov's house, except that it was much bigger, and the was a river on one side.

Although Chinese had obsolete equipment, all were armed with rifles, usually Gewehr 88 or Gewehr 98's, German made M1935 helmets, gas masks (for the Japanese had used mustard gas in Shanghai), and only 27 light machine guns (Czech ZB vz.26) and 24 heavy macine guns (Maxims)

There were about 414-453 defenders present at the battle.

Japanese had Type 94 Te-Ke Tankettes and Type 89 mortars and Type 38 Arisakas

Map of Battle. Note: Foreign powers took no action in this battle, though their prescense discouraged the Jpanese from using mustard gas.

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Wikipedia Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sihang_Warehouse




zuiquan1

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#2 12 years ago

sounds like an awsome map, and would be an excellent addition to the SE asia campaign:naughty:




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#3 12 years ago

Nice map idea. But how strong were the Japaense and what was the conclusion and the casualities?




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#4 12 years ago

oscar989;3248769But how strong were the Japaense and what was the conclusion and the casualities?[/quote]

Im not really sure.

I do know that it was the 3rd Division of the Shanghai Expeditionary Force.

Chinese got reinforcements often though.

[quote=Wikipedia] Chinese Army * 524th Regiment, 88th Division - Regimental commander, Army Lieutenant Colonel Xie Jinyuan

* Regimental commander, Army Major Shangguan Zhibiao (上官志标)

* 1st Battalion, 524th Regiment - Battalion Commander, Army Major Yang Ruifu (杨瑞符)

* 1st Company, 1st Battalion - Company commander, Army Captain Tao Xingchun (陶杏春) * 2nd Company, 1st Battalion - Company commander, Army Captain Deng Ying (邓英) * 3rd Company, 1st Battalion - Company commander, Army Captain Shi Meihao (石美豪, wounded), Army Captain Tang Di (唐棣) * Machine Gun Company, 1st Battalion - Company commander, Army Captain Lei Xiong (雷雄)

Initially containing around 800 men, it was technically an over-strength battalion, but casualties suffered over the course of the war made it actually below strength, at 423 men, including officers. As a further reduction in strength, only 414 were present during the battle. Some sources give 453 as the paper strength of the battalion, and due to the confusion of the general retreat, it is possible some groups failed to make it to the battle. Two months of intense fighting had also whittled down the original German-trained troops, and after five reinforcements, the majority of soldiers and officers in the battalion were garrison troops from the surrounding provinces.[4] Most of the men were from the 1st Battalion, 5th Regiment of the Hubei Provincial Garrison. Hubei also did not want to send its well-trained troops, built over a decade to fight against the Chinese Communists, to Shanghai. Thus ultimately many of the soldiers sent as reinforcements to Shanghai were green recruits, with the latest batch recruited after the outbreak of war on 7 July.[2] Though the 1st Battalion was not the only battalion in the 524th, it was by far the most famous after the battle. Eventually the 1st came to be equated with the 524th, even within official documents of the period.

When they say course of war do they mean in the battle, or over the whole chinese war against japan?

EDIT: Chinese also had AA guns, but Japnese didn't want to bomb from fear of hitting the foreign powers across the river

Japanese also had many cannons.




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#5 12 years ago

Theres actually a Wikipedia article on this battle, and it's very well constructed. The warehouse was defended by about 400 Chinese Infantry, men part of the German Trained Chinese divisions that battled during the battle of Shang-hai. It allowed for the remainder of the Chinese army to retreat while the battalion tied down the Japanese military. The japanese couldn't simply bomb the warehouse into the ground since it was too near the international parts of Shanghai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/800_Heroes

I would love to see a Chinese map in a future release, as their role in WWII seems to be a bit downplayed.




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#6 12 years ago

I think this would make an excellent map. This battle is also just the good size to make an FH map.

Note: Foreign powers took no action in this battle, though their prescense discouraged the Jpanese from using mustard gas.

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General_Henry

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#7 12 years ago

Make Some European Style Building As Background, Too!




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#8 12 years ago

I'd personally love the idea of fighting against the Japanese with the Chinese, 100% Polska support on this map suggestion.




General_Henry

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#9 12 years ago

K98s vs arisaka? lol....or something melee for chinese :p...

well, is it wise to include chinese in the first few release? there are simply too many maps to be made = ="

or i have the idea to include this one , to tell FH2 players that there will be chinese lol




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#10 12 years ago

K98 > Arisaka.

(lol imagine a PZIIIJ vs. Chi-Ha battle)