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Meadow

You might very well think that

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21st February 2004

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#11 12 years ago

^ Yeah, that. Especially on the shifting from early war focus thing. I wish Forgotten Hope had remained about the Forgotten Hope...




Mad Cat

Your mama on a stick.

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#12 12 years ago

I think it's great they went from forgotten hope to whole war because if not we would've had a kickass game only for a part of the war instead of a kickass game about the whole war :)




Seth_Soldier

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#13 12 years ago

Most of the maginot bunker have resist even until the 4th jully a long time after the armistice. Rommel even was afraid of a firect confrontation with the maginot line because most of the turret was retractable and so not so easy to blow up. Maginot wasn't build for a strict defense forteress but to give time for mobilization and slow german advance. The northern of france haven't been cover because normally belgium was an allied and france would have use the belgium fortress . Unfortunately belgium have declared neutrality which is one of the reason of the 40 desaster (if belgium was still an allies in 1939, france would have set-up a strong defense line in belgium and had a better repartition. But because of the neutrality, the forces has to enter only when germans invaded belgium and consequently haven't been able to build the defense line ...)

So about the maginot line i see more as an infantery map fighting around the bunker. For france, some battle in belgium and holland would be cool. Some in the alps (vs italian) and weygand line. A arras map already exist for fh1




snotvod

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#14 12 years ago

The Belgians had several defense lines, which the French could occupy should the Germans invade. If the Belgians had allowed French soldiers on their ground, that would've been provocative for the Germans, so that wasn't the best option either. Let's not play the whose-fault-is-it-that-the-allies-lost game.




Sleestack

Got some death to do.

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#15 12 years ago
madcat0;3507060I hope they would put Eben emael in...

Eben Emael is everything you could ask for in a clan match. I am still in shock that this map isnt already in FH. Glider assaults, shaped charges, pop-up gun turrets, rubber assault boats, dive bombers,,,




Johannes

France's Bitch

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#16 12 years ago
snotvod;3507524The Belgians had several defense lines, which the French could occupy should the Germans invade. If the Belgians had allowed French soldiers on their ground, that would've been provocative for the Germans, so that wasn't the best option either. Let's not play the whose-fault-is-it-that-the-allies-lost game.

No, I think he rather had it right. The French were actually planning to continue building the Maginot Line around all of Belgium (I think), or to incorporate Belgian forts into the line and staff them with French troops. When Belgium declared neutrality (I believe that was in 1936), the French had to move on out. So no finger pointing, but the Germans didn't seem to care one way or the other and the mutual protection of Belgium at the beginning of the western Blitz may have made some difference. And yes, there was fighting on the Maginot Line. 19 German divisions fought there as a diversion tactic. As for the Italians invading France, they only did so near the very end of the conquest of France (June 10th) and were not at all very successful in their invasion. The declaration of war on France from Italy was more important on morale than anything else.




snotvod

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#17 12 years ago

On a side note; putting all your hopes in a single ultra strong defence line right next to the border is not a good idea. Maybe it was in the time before there were planes, but not in 1940. Thus we ( France and Belgium, and to a lesser extent Holland) relied on obsolete defence tactics, wich is, IMHO, one of the main reasons the west fell so relatively quickly. On the other hand, they are a very nice historical site nowadays. ;) Here's Eben-Emael in september 2006:

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The entrance, with two 60mm cannons and three mg08 machineguns. SL550778.jpg One of the several endless underground hallways. Imagine being trapped in here, knowing that the Germans were 30 meters above you... SL550783.jpg One of the 75mm Cannons in a Three-gun bunker. SL550799.jpg A barricaded internal door. SL550807.jpg This is the stairway on the other side of the door. trap_MiN-2.jpg Above this stair there was a small romm with a metal door similar to the one i showed. The germans blew up that door with a hollow charge, destroying the stair too. This is the other side of the door i showed: SL550805.jpg Three men died in that little room. No remains of them were found. Only an asbestos glove was found there, worn by one of the artillerymen to handle the hot fired cannon shells.

And one of the several displays. SL550821.jpg SL550777.jpg Belgium's battle may not have been the biggest one, nor the most important or impressive one, but when i walked to the car and looked back to the fort, I felt proud to be Belgian.

Oh dierbaar Belgie... *sniff*




It's Happy Fun Ball!

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#18 12 years ago

Belgium's worries about not provoking the Germans was rather niave. Especially since Germany had used Belgium as an invasion route to France in the past. The German plan in 1940, as it was in 1914, was to go through Belgium, regardless of the Belgian's alliance. Th Belgian decleration of neutrality made zero difference to the German war plans, in both wars. Unfortunately, the desire to avoid war at all costs blinded Belgian politicians as much as it had blinded the rest of Europe.




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#19 12 years ago
snotvod;3509615On a side note; putting all your hopes in a single ultra strong defence line right next to the border is not a good idea. Maybe it was in the time before there were planes, but not in 1940. Thus we ( France and Belgium, and to a lesser extent Holland) relied on obsolete defence tactics, wich is, IMHO, one of the main reasons the west fell so relatively quickly. On the other hand, they are a very nice historical site nowadays. ;) Here's Eben-Emael in september 2006:
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The entrance, with two 60mm cannons and three mg08 machineguns. SL550778.jpg One of the several endless underground hallways. Imagine being trapped in here, knowing that the Germans were 30 meters above you... SL550783.jpg One of the 75mm Cannons in a Three-gun bunker. SL550799.jpg A barricaded internal door. SL550807.jpg This is the stairway on the other side of the door. trap_MiN-2.jpg Above this stair there was a small romm with a metal door similar to the one i showed. The germans blew up that door with a hollow charge, destroying the stair too. This is the other side of the door i showed: SL550805.jpg Three men died in that little room. No remains of them were found. Only an asbestos glove was found there, worn by one of the artillerymen to handle the hot fired cannon shells.

And one of the several displays. SL550821.jpg SL550777.jpg Belgium's battle may not have been the biggest one, nor the most important or impressive one, but when i walked to the car and looked back to the fort, I felt proud to be Belgian.

Oh dierbaar Belgie... *sniff*

always be proud mate :)




JohnWalker

The Few. The Proud.

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#20 12 years ago

On the other side of the world, but I'd like The Battle of Singapore, sinking of the Wales an Repulse. Early Brit/Aussie on Jap action.