I have a customized micro ATX case that I take to LAN parties and want to upgrade the graphics on.
Here is the system specs.
Nvidia Nforce motherboard AMD XP2200 CPU 512MB DDR RAM Western Digital 40GB 7200 rpm ATA100 HDD Goldstar 16xDVD/16x12x32 CD-RW combo drive onboard Nforce sound (quite happy with) onboard 10/100networking (quite happy with) onboard GF2MX-32MB
I want to upgrade the graphics card in my LAN box to keep compatible with the newer games coming out.
I am looking at this: http://www.fic.com.tw/product/vga/1stgraphics.aspx?model_id=27
This means I will be upgrading from a Geforce 2MX 400 64MB DDR to a Radeon 9600 with 128MB DDR. Would this card be better than, equal to, or less than a Geforce Ti 4200 with 128MB DDR.
My only other option seems to be a Geforce FX 5200 with 128MB DDR but I have been reading and been told that the FX 5200 is not any better than my Ti 4200.
Comments, opinions,and thoughts would be appreciated. Keep it civil.
I would die without GF
29th November 2003
The 9600 you're considering now is alright, meaning it'll let you play most of today's games decently. But when running some of the performance-demanding games that are coming out this year and possibly next (i.e. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow), you will start to get some serious lag. If you want something from ATI, I would get a Radeon 9800 series, the 9800 Pro or the fastest GPU out, the 9800 XT. If you plan to stick with nVidia, get one the FX series, perferrably the newer cards. An FX 5200 to a 5700 will do you very well for awhile, but If you really want to stay somewhat ahead of the competition, get an FX 5900 or 5950 Ultra. Both are in the $400 to $500 range, but well worth it. Same with the ATI 9800 XT (Radeon cards are excellent for speed), except I believe it's a little cheaper...best suggestion I can give you, whether your get nVidia or ATI, is to get a 256mb card. It's not expensive if you know what to look for. For the future you may want to think about upgrading your prcoessor to an Athlon XP 3000 series, and you should upgrade your RAM to 1Ghz; That's going to be demanded by many games soon.
9800 XT is possibly the best out there. The graphics are great too. 9600 doesnt fall far behind. The card that you seem to look at is also a very good card. I happen to have a 5200 on my old computer and it worked ver nice. If you are looking somewhere on the Nvidia line, you should try the nvidia 5950. Its nVidia's latest card and works very well. The nVidia 5950 plays most of the games that I have and also enhances the graphics of the high-performance games very well too without any serious lag.I tried it on Star Wars: Galaxies and no lag. And as Majic said, buy a card in nVidia's FX line.
Ive seen 128mb gfx5900 that are cheap
Anlushac11I have a customized micro ATX case.
Please note that it is a Micro ATX case. It is small and low profile meaning that I cannot run a fullsize AGP graphics card, I am limited to running a 1/2 height card. My luck has been everytime I find a good non crippled half height card it is either sold out or has just been discontinued for a newer model that is limited production.
I have 2 other full size systems but I dont want to have to carry them around. The Micro-ATX system has a Compaq rackmount handle installed and is about the size of a briefcase making it perfect for carrying to a LAN party. When at home it sits under the desk on a shelf and is a file server.
If someone would make a 1/2 height 9800XT with 128MB of RAM I would be all over it. Apparently in the Pacific rim you can get 1/2 height cards all day long because many people have small apartments and hme and space is at a premium, but they wont sell the in the USA as they say the market is too limited.
What I am wanting is a card between a GF4 ti 4200 and a Radeon 9700 that is 1/2 height and has 128MB of RAM and costs less than $200
I thought you were able to put any gpu card into a micro case. Well, other than a Wildcat. Can you post a pic of what your case looks like? Your b****ing about carring a case to lan parties?!? Take a look at the beast i'm currently cunstructing. http://www.freewebs.com/livn4metal/Computer.htm It's not finnished yet, but soon...
I would die without GF
29th November 2003
Just not one thing, that nVidia and ATI have give and takes: a Radeon 9600 or 9800 XT is faster and more compatible with many games because most games are made with DirectX. nVidia is best run with games that are made using OpenGL (Doom 3 will be one major case).
Majic_MushroomJust not one thing, that nVidia and ATI have give and takes: a Radeon 9600 or 9800 XT is faster and more compatible with many games because most games are made with DirectX. nVidia is best run with games that are made using OpenGL (Doom 3 will be one major case).
True. While a Nvidia card has more pipelines, the lines on a Radeon are wider, thus making them more compatable for future games.
livn4metalI thought you were able to put any gpu card into a micro case. Well, other than a Wildcat. Can you post a pic of what your case looks like? Your b****ing about carring a case to lan parties?!? Take a look at the beast i'm currently cunstructing. http://www.freewebs.com/livn4metal/Computer.htm It's not finnished yet, but soon...
It was originally built as a challenge to see how much technology I could put into the small case. I am aware of the behemoths some of the gamers brought it in, but I want to see how small I can build it.
Actually I have a Flex ATX case. The only thing keeping me from having a ultra fast system is a good video card. But if the 9600 1/2 height card brings me up tot he same level as my desktop computer I will be happy with that.
I have the black version of that case with a window kit and EL wire inside. Im currently relocating the HDD to make room for a combo waterpum presivor and a radiator. The waterpump will be powered by a external AC power source.
9600 pro can be tweaked to 9700 pro only using software. Its a good all-around card that will work in high res on most games. A friend of mine is using it. 9800 XT and 9600 pro are NOT WORTH COMPARING, DIFFERENCES ARE HUGE.