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#1 16 years ago

Alright, this is a map idea.

The map would be about the german fallschirmjager drop over a larger Norwegian air field along the mid west coast. The plan of action called for Bf110s and Stukas to bomb and strafe the AA guns and aircraft to soften up the airfield and nearby city for the german paras. A large flight of fallschirmjagers flew over the airfield about 2 hours late (the Ju-52s realized over the netherlands that they didnt have enough fuel to make it round trip, some of them turned back to refuel, some continued on). The paratroops, upon hitting the ground, faced fierce resistance from Norwegian machinegunners and infantry that the bombardment managed to miss. The rest of the paratroops arrived in a matter not befitting a fallschirmjager, the Ju-52s actually LANDED on the airfield (remember: no fuel) and unloaded. The pilots picked up weapons from the dead Norwegians and Germans and faught along side the infantry.

At the port of the nearby city there was a duel between a massive artillery Norwegian cannon (roughly the size of the one in Gold near the rear flag) and a German cruiser. Due to a series of mishaps, the Norwegians sunk this ship.

My idea for this map is...

Have 2 as mobile SPs flying towards the airfield (ai controlled), they drop paras and fly off the map, (loosing their spawn point capibility. The paratroops then must capture the airfield flag, and when they do, you see another Ju-52 spawn (not a spawn point) come in and land. When it stops moving, it becomes the german SP. Once the germans secure the airfield, some Bf110s and Bf-109E4/Z Jabos should spawn. Then they must move on towards the nearby town, securing at most 2 points in the town and the harbor. Once the harbor is secure, a cruiser spawns in the ocean. The final objective should be to attack this massive cannon. To make it a good fight, put in machine gun pillboxes around the cannon and add a minefield as well.

Seeing as how this is a parachute assault, the Germans should not get any armor, but rather Norwegian equipment with the Iron Cross painted on the side.

Really low priority, but I think this would be a very fun map.

If you want to read where I got this information, go to your library and check out the West Point "History of 20th Century Wars" textbook used in their Mil Science classes.




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#2 16 years ago

Yeah, I'm Norwegian and I think this map could be fun(even though we lost), because then I could finally play as my own country in my favorite battlefield mod. But what equipment should they use, I don't think anyone wants to model some weapons just for ONE map. but they should use the K98, actually they used the Krag Jørgensen, but it actually does look a little like the K98(I know this, I've held a Krag). I don't know that much about norwegian WWII equipment, but I think they used Colt .45 pistols and Nagant Revolvers, don't know about submachine-guns and machine-guns. And you would also need some Norwegian sounds, or you could just ignore making new sounds and use someone else's and just give'em som weapons that already are made.




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#3 16 years ago

There will be a whole add one mod with the Norwegian battels/campaingn...!

The Norwegian Resistance Team has had many difficulties, to find modellers, texturers and coders for a long time now. Because of that reason, we have decided to borrow some models from another mod. I'm now proud to announce, that the Norwegian Resistance mod will become an addon-mod, based on the Forgotten Hope mod for BF1942. We had talks with the FH-team, to implement our models into FH. But ArnimAce did suggest to base NR on the Forgotten Hope archives, thus we can use their models and armies and still have our own stuff going on there. We are very pleased with this idea, and we are very thankfull to the FH-Team for all the help. For the future users of Norwegian Resistance this does mean, that they need Forgotten Hope-mod installed on their computers. I hope you are not angry with us, because this is a great download, but no other mod has this variety of objects and also this kind of quality.

I have completed a basic singleplayer-support for the Norwegian Resistance and the maps 'Asenfjorden' and 'Battle at Dombas' got bots now. With the help of the many usefull tools and the helpfull people on the Battlefield-Singleplayer? and the Legion Of The Dragon-forums this comes out fine slowly.

Work has started on the maps 'Operation Gunnerside', 'Attack on Hegra Fortress' and 'Battle of Narvik'. Screenshots, when made, will be posted, as allways, in our 'Picture of the Week'-section.

Some new models went ingame recently. The FordT-model was a civil car, that was extensivly by norwegian Resistance-fighters.

heres a link for a video showcasing many of the maps that will be included! fpscentral.com link: http://www.fpscentral.com/index.php?game=5&site=download_file&id=2586




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#4 16 years ago
Randarkmaan But what equipment should they use, I don't think anyone wants to model some weapons just for ONE map. but they should use the K98, actually they used the Krag Jørgensen, but it actually does look a little like the K98(I know this, I've held a Krag). I don't know that much about norwegian WWII equipment, but I think they used Colt .45 pistols and Nagant Revolvers, don't know about submachine-guns and machine-guns. And you would also need some Norwegian sounds, or you could just ignore making new sounds and use someone else's and just give'em som weapons that already are made.

i'd support this idea. regarding the Krag - maybe modify a K98 with the bolt from a Nagant? (not rounded). also - for a series of map add some resistance maps (proper research is necessary, to get proper action needed for a game, and also to avoid those actions that went dreadfully wrong.

equipment for this one: the Krag an MG, which i cannot remember the name (norwegian origin, i think - will check next week) "silent akilling" knife (more lethal, less swosh, black) welrod bolt-action pistol sten silenced sten bren (kit, close to air drop container) maybe even Luger Artillery (long barrel) luger various hand grenades (german, british, and american) (random spawn, not everyone get grenades, both teams)

possible objectives: spawn some objective close to out of bounds area (flee from germans) the object is carried by a soldier with a pickup kit. this kit will not disappear when the soldier is killed. they [nor. soldiers] spawn inland, and must cross a town (with one out of two deep enough docks) with MG-fortifications. one or two 20mm AA should be placed on the outer edges of the town. should have a limited ability to fire backwards (not main intended use, but there were quite a lot of them on the western coast). there is also another random spawnpoint on a little fishing smack close to out-of-bounds objective 1/10, but at least one, spawn there. this fishing smack will bring the "kit-bearer" to "mount doom", and end the game.

plenty of ammo between the german MG-positions, but not much near the norwegian main spawn. also, the fishing smack is to almost no degree vulnerable to rifles, only MGs close to the water line would sink it, and then only after sustained fire.

this map would reflect the escape effort made by some people who were uncovered by the germans and had to flee to england in small boats.

germans do not have MP/StG44 or G43, for both balance reasons, and that i really doubt that there were any real use for them there. they probably served on the real fronts. lugers would be nice.

i have a fishing smack in the works, but i don't know if it will be over-the-top with polys, or not sufficient quality, or if it will be done in time. i've been thinking of various norwegian maps

(sorry, fragmented)




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#5 16 years ago

Arisaka, you do know what those numbers at the end of a German military equipment designation means, dont you? MachinePistole 40 was issued in 1940, Sturmgwher 44 was issued in 1944, Fallshcirmgwher 42 was issued in 1942, Machinegwher 42 was issued in 1942...

Adding in Stg44s and FG42s to this map can not screw up balance, because at this time they did not even exist.

I'd like to see this map put in, along with other Norwegian maps, when the Finns get some good attention.




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#6 16 years ago

USMA2010Arisaka, you do know what those numbers at the end of a German military equipment designation means, dont you? MachinePistole 40 was issued in 1940, Sturmgwher 44 was issued in 1944, Fallshcirmgwher 42 was issued in 1942, Machinegwher 42 was issued in 1942...

Adding in Stg44s and FG42s to this map can not screw up balance, because at this time they did not even exist.

I'd like to see this map put in, along with other Norwegian maps, when the Finns get some good attention.

don't worry, i already know. but a map where locals flee has to be after 1940, and most likely in the later half of the war (war here being 40-45, rather than 39-45).

there were MG42s in norway AFAIK, as well as plenty of 34's. I never mentioned FG42, i mentioned G43. read comment below:

and i also wrote: MP44 (aka StG) probably never saw any action in norway, as it was probably needed on the real front. if it had been in proper quantities at the time norway was invaded (i know, trials in '43, norway 1940) it might have seen some action there.

conclusion: i primarily picture a different, later scenario than post #1 at the time my scenario is played out G43 and MP44 did exist, but probably did not see any usage [here], as i argued in my first post. afaik either of the following mg's were stationed in norway: 15,34,42

just clearing up :)

edit: and to your last line: i'd like to see more projects assigned/accepted from other teams, such as norwegian resistance. if they manage to create content worthy of FH-release, then i'd suggest adding it. if i were on the NR-team, i'd consider that an honor. this way a larger work force can be handled more easily, than a monolithic structure, and a lot more content of quality-proofed material would be added.




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#7 16 years ago

USMA2010 are you norwegian? Just wondering, because most other people tend to ingore norway during WWII...




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#8 16 years ago

no his and american.. theres no doubt about it! :D just look at his avatar..




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#9 16 years ago

Could have a Norweign Fort with guns and torpedoes attack the German Hipper class heavy Cruiser Blucher?




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#10 16 years ago

Yeah, we could have that(btw it's Blücher not Blucher)