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Soujiro

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#51 15 years ago

The M16 used by the Hamas has a triangular handguards with three-pronged flashsuppressor, and no forward assist. These are characterstics of the original M16, but that's beside the point. Let get back on topic.

JetroEither way, that doesn't explain the unjamming procedures used in the M1 garand, Thompson, Mg42, Bren, or FG-42. Not every gun was so easy to clean with sand gunging up the internals.[/quote]

True, but not everyone follow the official procedure. There are "quick" or "short" ways of accomplishing some of them. Technically, you should strip them down, but when you're in middle of a firefight... you either discharge the chamber or bang it.

[QUOTE=Jetro]Wasn't the purpose of me being given a gun to go kill bad guys? It's a sad day when a soldier can't trust his weapon enough to even fire at the enemy and decides to role-play Sam Fisher instead.

Not really. There's isn't a whole lot of deep-water crossing during WWII. First, they don't want to get their weapon submerged. Second, a lot of them haven't learnt how to swim. However, if you do decide to mess up your weapon, you should discharge the chamber or bang it. At least, that what the Maoist insurgents in Nepel do with their Enfield rifles. The instant they pick up their weapons, the first thing they do is clear the weapons before engaging or firing.

Off-topic: Don't do what the Maoists do. Please don't use your fingernails to scrape out the mud out your small arms.




Jetro

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#52 15 years ago

SoujiroThe M16 used by the Hamas has a triangular handguards with three-pronged flashsuppressor, and no forward assist. These are characterstics of the original M16, but that's beside the point. Let get back on topic.

True, but not everyone follow the official procedure. There are "quick" or "short" ways of accomplishing some of them. Technically, you should strip them down, but when you're in middle of a firefight... you either discharge the chamber or bang it.

Not really. There's isn't a whole lot of deep-water crossing during WWII. First, they don't want to get their weapon submerged. Second, a lot of them haven't learnt how to swim. However, if you do decide to mess up your weapon, you should discharge the chamber or bang it. At least, that what the Maoist insurgents in Nepel do with their Enfield rifles. The instant they pick up their weapons, the first thing they do is clear the weapons before engaging or firing.

Off-topic: Don't do what the Maoists do. Please don't use your fingernails to scrape out the mud out your small arms.

But my post isn't just adressing jammings due to water. It also addresses jamming due to weather, diving in the mud, bad luck, God's wrath, ect. I personally don't think soldiers should be allowed swim in deep water in most cases. In others, you'd expect there would be a delay between getting out of the water and the readying of your weapon in the cases where the gun was submerged since most soldiers would make sure to pour water out their barrels before firing a recently submerged gun.

Honestly I think people jumping in rivers should be swept away by the current right into the out of bounds killzone.:rolleyes:

In cases of chest deep water, there's no option to hold the gun above the water surface as you cross which would be a pretty good idea if you had to cross deeper waters in the first place.




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#53 15 years ago

Well, really deep water is kinda hard to hold up your rifle. that only works for water around 5-6 feet. Past that, swimming requires a bit more activity, especially with that radio/AT kit/rifle/helmet




Jetro

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#54 15 years ago

Which is why brigdes where so important. AT/Radio/helmet swimmer = drowned marine.




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#55 15 years ago

Yeah, so if you attempt wading with all that stuff through water deeper than 5-6 feet, you should get your gun jammed.




Jetro

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#56 15 years ago

about 6 feet, you're looking at your head being under the water.

At 5 I'm pretty sure you could hold the rifle above you while you crossed.




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#57 15 years ago

Well, I'd have some of my head above water. Plus, you could stand on your tiptoes^.^




Frederf

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#58 15 years ago

Hard to stand on tip toes with 50 lbs of gear on. ^^ I can understand the "if my weapon jams, I don't want it to be because I didn't take care of my firearm (since I wasn't given the chance to)" I apologize for my kinda rant. I was just looking for a realisitc representation of jams.