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Mr.MuFf

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#1 13 years ago

I was just thinking that itd be cool to do a very oriental city map, maybe as a bombing (objective) map? Think about it, Asian pagodas, huts etc. etc. Itd be even better if it was set at night with lights everywhere.......itd just have a massive wow atmospehre to it.




Karst

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#2 13 years ago

Would be interesting, i just hope it doesn't lag as badly as the other night bombing map known as Bombing the Reich, that's almost unplayable (at least for me)




-BMN-

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#3 13 years ago

Or, maybe, a PEARL HARBOR map (Japanese planes starting from carries), the objective being to sink the ships and to destroy harbor facilities...




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#4 13 years ago

I can't remember but if BF2 can do dynamic lightning it would be better to do it there (so you could have searchlights)




silian

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#5 13 years ago

I think a Battle of the Bismarck Sea map would be good the japs get some Destroyers and Supply ships and possibly an aircraft carrier or planes spawning in the air, while the Americans get a couple of carriers and some Destroyers, the ships don't respawn obviously.




wjlaslo

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#6 13 years ago

The pearl harbor map has been discussed already, and most people were against it, since it would be a HUGE map and would not have that surprise element, plus the battleships would not be vehicles, they would be statics with guns on them. We have no US battleship. It would be too time consuming, and I agree with them.




Comrade0Red

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#7 13 years ago

I don't think I'd have too much fun playing a Pearl harbour map, especially since there shouldn't really be a way for the Americans to win it. It'd just be stupid in my opinion. I don't really like this idea too much either, bomber maps aren't my thing really, maybe fighter maps. And if you've been to Asia you'll know that it's not made up of Pagodas. They avoided bombing Kyoto for that reason, it was a very beautiful city. Generally nations don't go around bombing landmarks.




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#8 13 years ago
Comrade0RedGenerally nations don't go around bombing landmarks.

... with the exception of Dresden, which was one of the most beautiful and filled with history cities in Germany / Europe. It was... anihilated in - probably - the biggest (and pointless) USAAF air raids in WWII, with tens of thousand (if not more) civilians reduced to ashes. There were no military objectives in the city, just cultural landmarks.




Mr.MuFf

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#9 13 years ago
Comrade0Red And if you've been to Asia you'll know that it's not made up of Pagodas. They avoided bombing Kyoto for that reason, it was a very beautiful city. Generally nations don't go around bombing landmarks.

Ummm dude........go to South East Asia.......its all filled with landmarks.




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#10 13 years ago
-BMN-... with the exception of Dresden, which was one of the most beautiful and filled with history cities in Germany / Europe. It was... anihilated in - probably - the biggest (and pointless) USAAF air raids in WWII, with tens of thousand (if not more) civilians reduced to ashes. There were no military objectives in the city, just cultural landmarks.

Ahh here we go again. Please do yourself a favor and read a history book before you go posting your BS like this here again. Its people (and I use that term loosely) that start shit in these forums with posts like this.

First place it was a raid planned, launched, and conducted by the RAF's "Bomber"Harris" AGAINST the wishes of the USAAF.

The RAF requested the USAAF bomb the city and at first the USAAF resisted. Higher ups ordered the USAAF to assist the RAF so the RAF bombed it at night, the USAF bombed it during the day and the RAF bombed it again that night.

WHERE THE F&*k IS YOUR MENTION THAT IT WAS PLANNED AND CONDUCTED BY THE RAF?

WHY IS IT YOU ONLY MENTIONED THAT THE USAF BOMBED DRESDEN?

Nothing of Military significance you say?

The Deputy Chief of the Soviet General Staff, General Aleksei Antonov raised two issues at the conference relating to the Western Allied strategic bomber force. The first was the demarcation of a bomb-line running north to south, where to avoid accidentally bombing Soviet forces, Western Allied aircraft would not bomb east of the line without specific Soviet permission. The second was to hamper the movement of troops from the western front, Norway and Italy, in particular by paralysing the junctions of Berlin and Leipzig with aerial bombardment. In response to the Soviet requests, Portal (who was in Yalta) sent a request Bottomley to send him a list of objectives which could be discussed with the Soviets. The list sent back to him included oil plants, tank and aircraft factories and the cities of Berlin and Dresden. In the discussions which followed the Western Allies pointed out that unless Dresden was bombed as well, the Germans could route rail traffic through Dresden to compensate for any damage caused to Berlin and Leipzig. Antonov agreed and requested that Dresden was added to his list of requests. Once the targets had been agreed at Yalta, the Combined Strategic Targets Committee, SHAEF (Air), informed the USAAF and the RAF Bomber commands that Dresden was among targets selected to degrade German lines of communication. Their authority to do this came directly from the Western Allies' Combined Chiefs of Staff.
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air Force in daytime raids.
Later on 14th from 12:17 until 12:30 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden, with the railway yards as their aiming point.

The fist raid was two groups of Lancasters totalling 1,329 bombers dropping ON the city. During the series of raids the USAAF bombed the railyards, not in the city itself.

IIRC all the British high level commanders were knighted for their service in teh war except for Bomber Harris.