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MelanchOli

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#1 14 years ago

We know that in FH 0.61 the Tiger's turret rotating speed has been massively reduced. Still, we're much better off than actual Tiger crews in that respect.

Which brings me to my real subject: is the King Tiger's turret rotating speed realistic? IIRC the KT's turret is heavier than the Tiger I's one - but still the KT has a turret rotating speed similar to the Panzer4. This seems rather strange to me.

Can anyone comment on this?




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#2 14 years ago

yes i asked about it once and some guy said it was cuse it hada special extra strong engine for turning the turret




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#3 14 years ago

i couldnt find much, but heres what I did find:

Quoted from the 'Achtung Panzer!' website:

King Tiger with the Porsche turret weighed 68,500 kg, while with the Henschel turret weighed 69,800 kg. Krupp produced both turrets. The turret could be traversed 360 degrees in 19 to 77 seconds, depending on engine RPM; since the engine powered the hydraulic turret drive (at 2,000rpm - 19 seconds). It could be also traversed by hand, using the hand wheel operated by the gunner.

I remember someone saying the Tiger II had a better turret turning drive than the Tiger I because it had a more advanced system, even though it was heavier in weight.




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#4 14 years ago

Ply3r_17i couldnt find much, but heres what I did find:

Quoted from the 'Achtung Panzer!' website:

King Tiger with the Porsche turret weighed 68,500 kg, while with the Henschel turret weighed 69,800 kg. Krupp produced both turrets. The turret could be traversed 360 degrees in 19 to 77 seconds, depending on engine RPM; since the engine powered the hydraulic turret drive (at 2,000rpm - 19 seconds). It could be also traversed by hand, using the hand wheel operated by the gunner.

I remember someone saying the Tiger II had a better turret turning drive than the Tiger I because it had a more advanced system, even though it was heavier in weight.

Yep, I also read that one on 'Achtung Panzer!' - and I believe I read somewhere that the Tiger I had a turret rotation time of 23 seconds for 360° IRL. I also think that the Tiger I's turret rotation time also was dependant on engine rpm and the 23 seconds was the fastest value. If that value is correct (which I'm not sure about, but it seems halfway believable), the FH KT would have to get a rotation time at least as great as the Tiger I's one.

Which would be quite a pain for the FH KT's usability; I actually don't use the Tiger I anymore if not necessary because of its slow turret rotation. If the KT's turret would be made even slower than the Tiger I's one, the KT would practically become cannon fodder to infantry. It's down to the old realism-against-gameplay debate then, I guess. ;)

And no, don't tell me I need to turn the entire tank. I know 'bout that, but it's extremely unpractical for hunting infantry - especially in towns.

BTW: Is there a way of making turret rotation dependant on the tank's movement speed? Because this is what the 19 to 77 seconds time span basically says: The faster the tank is moving, the less engine power is available to rotate the turret.




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#5 14 years ago

The KT could rotate it's turret 360 degrees in 12.3 seconds at it's fastest capacity. The standard Tiger took much longer...I think 60+ seconds.




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#6 14 years ago

you are correct