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Pietje

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#41 12 years ago
Seth_Soldieri don't think the lafette tripod was still common on the battlefield in 1943... I think most of the production of this tripod have been done before the war and extensively use during the first years of the war. But with the lost of the great units in 41 and during '42 the production has certainly been turned to a mass production of mg rather tripod. The atlantic wall front has certainly used a massive number of tripod

Hmm, do you have actually proof for this? Thereby refering to the tripod being common before the war and not common in 1943.

You also seem to contradict yourself with the statement of: "The atlantic wall front has certainly used a massive number of tripod."

Also can you explain this: "But with the lost of the great units in 41 and during '42". Wich great units are you talking about? Also explain to me wich great unit was lost in 1941, please. :)




Fuzzy Bunny

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#42 12 years ago
PietjeAlso can you explain this: "But with the lost of the great units in 41 and during '42". Wich great units are you talking about? Also explain to me wich great unit was lost in 1941, please. :)

It's the Maus. It went missing in late 1941, presumably behind Hitler's couch. three SS divisions spent years looking for it, but the prototype was only located in late 1944; it had actually been hiding in the closet, next to the exploding flamethrower and the secret nazi UFO.




Pietje

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#43 12 years ago
FuzzyBunnyIt's the Maus. It went missing in late 1941, presumably behind Hitler's couch. three SS divisions spent years looking for it, but the prototype was only located in late 1944; it had actually been hiding in the closet, next to the exploding flamethrower and the secret nazi UFO.

*Gasp* Fuzzy, your a genius!

Say, have you ever thought of becoming a stand up comedian, eh? :D




Andreas the Great

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#44 12 years ago

:lol: Yeah, he's one funny bunny isn't he?




Seth_Soldier

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#45 12 years ago

PietjeHmm, do you have actually proof for this? Thereby refering to the tripod being common before the war and not common in 1943.

You also seem to contradict yourself with the statement of: "The atlantic wall front has certainly used a massive number of tripod."

Also can you explain this: "But with the lost of the great units in 41 and during '42". Wich great units are you talking about? Also explain to me wich great unit was lost in 1941, please. :)

the atlantic wall is static front which is reinforced by concrete contruction. With the disaster (for the british) of Dieppe, the 3rd reich (germany etc ...) has had the evidence that mg34 nests was very effective and on the other side that the wall need to be well defend against an other assault. When i saying a great number, i'm talking about the percentage of tripod produced. So it means that the atlantic wall has certainly received a bigger percentage of tripod compared with the east front.

Before the war, the reich economy is not set-up for a long war, most of the army unit are filled with his "normal" equipment. (which means not a beute equipment or a reduction of number) . During the beginning of the war, okw wochenschau show soldier who carry with them this kind of tripod (france africa, even at the beginning of the barbarossa). But then it seems to become less common.

With the german casualty due to winter counter-attack and the '42 years (+ rommel africakorps), a lot of materials has certainly been loose. The fact that german can't filled the east front with new men (division=9 bataillon-->7bataillon, Compagny = 180 men-->80men / 3 millions of men in 1941 decreased to 2 500 000 men compared to the Soviet Union 2.5M -->4.5M), they increase the number of mg34.

A lafette tripod cost 2 Mg34 and since the reich economy won't be "fully at war" not until 44-45 with speer + the lack of raw material due to the production of the heavily expensive tiger I, i don't think the 3rd reich has raised the production of this tripod, especially for the east front. Even if some part of the front are trench warfare/ hugue plains, the tripod is not enough flexible for the east front (and especially for urban fight).

In mars 42 (about 1 years after the invasion) the casualties are around 1 millions. afaik most of the spear head in the east front were composed of experienced soldiers/vet of the wehrmacht (+ africakorps). Their losses in term of value can be replaced only by greenies . But this little explanation over this sentence has nothing to do about this post, it's more about the losses in term of equipment, the number of soldier and the logic of war which push me to think that production tripod has become unimportant in front of the number of mg