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Panzergrenadier Karl

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#1 10 years ago

Axis surely need a powerfull mobile aa again when the allied airsurpremacy is eminent in 1944.

I would prefer the much more build and not so "über" Möbelwagen over the Ostwind we got in FH1. It has the same decent 37 mm Flak but lacks the shoot´n scout mobility of the latter. Which was, at times, just pur overkill for the allied planes and of course infantry on certain maps.

Don´t get me wrong i liked the ostwind very much, at least when i man it :smokin:. I just think the möbel would better fit in the scenario and it´s nontheless as mobile as the ostwind without the ability to instant spray hundreds of rounds of deadly bofors sized flak granates in a much higher rof of course.

So what do the rest of the fanboys think about it..

i hit the wrong forum.... could a mod be so nice and bring this thread to the suggestion please...:D




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#2 10 years ago

hmm i always thought it was the other way around (more ostwind than möbelwagen build) but i just checked the data and you are right strange i wonder why i keep remembering only very few möbelwagen were build ?

but i wouldn't worry im sure DEVs will provide suitable German mobile AA




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#3 10 years ago

:moved: from Bug reproting to Suggestions forum.




Gyrfalk

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#4 10 years ago

From the top of my head (always better with pics maybe later when i get home): Mobelwagon - Pz3 chassis (already modeled) + Flakvierling (same)+Turret plates that open to fire (needs modeling simple i think) Ostwind - Pz4 chassis (modeled) + turret that doesnt open with flak 37mm(needs modeling) Wiberlwind - same as ostwind but with Flakvierling instead In terms of game play 4 barrels of 20mm dispatch infantry a lot quicker than the 37mm but an open turret is very vulnerable as well. The 37mm is only HE (not sure if they carried AP) and against medium/heavy tanks has no effect and against infantry has a slow rate of fire and limited clip. Note:If the FH2 team decides to model the 37mm Flak as a static as well it will be great because it is one of the most forgotten models in todays WW2 games, very beautiful, and counters the bofors very well. The bofors is feared right now because its timed shells seem to conflict with net lag/geometry or something and will give u moments "WTF??" Gyr




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#5 10 years ago

I have to correct myself The Mobelwagon used the Pz4 chassis and the initial design came with a flakvierling, but it was considered too weak. Only one prtotype was produced. The second design came with the 3.7 cm Flak 43 L/89. The armor plates around the flak were 20mm thick




Panzergrenadier Karl

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#6 10 years ago

The Ostwind in FH1 has almost twice the rate of fire of the bofors, 240pM as it was in rl. Early versions used a 8 round clip but later on, i believe from 0.65 or so, one could fire round after round till all 1000! rounds were wasted. Giving the large explosion radius which is nearly equal to the bofors only tanks posed a danger or good pilots.

Now with the new FH2 planes one could emagine the death´n destruction one Ostwind might cause against planes which have to land and reload for bombs or rockets.

The möbel however is vulnerable against 20mm cannons or even infantry when the plates are lowered to bring the gun into position.

ps. thx donutz




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#7 10 years ago

Does someone know what the most numerous AA vehicle was for the axis in afrika and Normandy? And what where there numbers?




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#8 10 years ago

I'm pretty sure that would be the Sd.Kfz. 10/4 and 10/5 with some 3000 produced.

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#9 10 years ago

damn i want those great german mobile flak guns

my favorite weapon in fh1 is the mobile 88 (like the one you can find close to the german hangar on el alamein)

multi purpose hard hitting very accurate gun, protection was poor but if you get the first shot :D




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#10 10 years ago

I just wish there would be Flakpanzer I or 38(t)




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