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FlyGuy45

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#21 13 years ago

FuzzyBunnyOne more time:

-there is no known instance of a flamethrower exploding on someone. -there is no known possibility of a bullet or explosion igniting a flamethrower.

I actually went and researched this; if you do a bit of searching you'll find links to pages and books that confirm this.

Fuzzy, add this to the "Stupid Question" thing at the top of the suggestion forums.I am sick of hearing,"but the windtalk3rs w3r3 3317 so t3y talked, and w3 should hva3 teh code, and exploding flamethowers cuz its teh ture."Ofcourse I added my own little noob thing, in there....




Jetro

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#22 13 years ago
NishatWhat kind of container it is is irrelevant. A bullet that penetrates a Car gas tank I think will also do the same for a flamethrower gas tank. In anycase, combustion did not occur with the bullet-gas system. Perhaps if a bullet was fired at the firing nozzle as the flamethrower was being used......I think that would do it

While I agree that facts show flamethrowers don't explode when shot,(important higlight for quick-scan replyers)I don't agree a car gas tank is proof of those facts.(important higlight for post quick-scan replyers) MB has conflicted other "edutainment" shows before. The most notable I can think of is "Brown Noise" that myth busters claimed was busted, but Brainiacs claimed was confirmed. While I doubt it happened for flamethrowers, I think it's a bit presumptuous to claim that bullets can't ignite a gas system under any situation based on a ten minute TLC segment.:D I still wanna see em strap a good ole M1 to Buster and shoot him up though.:D

On a side note, it would be awesome if heat could be implemented as well as fire hurting people itself. The heat damage would really shine when some noob thinks he'd be able to hide by stowing away in a wood building or something or even cooking crew in theirs tanks:D(when engulfed completly of course). And the fire would be great for terrain denial, sealing off tunnels, ect.

Perhaps the fires could even interact with certain objects and make blazes. Which would be an excellent solution to grass-ninja infestations.:naughty:




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#23 13 years ago

1. Tracer rounds are heated, no? 2. A tracer round can still penentrate like a normal bullet, no? 3. Heat + Gas+ Pressure = Boom, no?

I didn't do any research on this. I just figure that if a heated round were to strike a container of gas under pressure that the results would be... intresting...




Fuzzy Bunny

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#24 13 years ago

It's not gas. It's a jellied mixture that does not explode as such. As my contact, the gentleman who wrote what is probably the definitive book on flamethrower usage in WWII (like I said, search forums for details, I'm too lazy to look it up _again_) stated, tests showed conclusively that the worst a puncture caused by even the most superheated, fast-moving debris or bullet could do is cause a slow, possibly burning leak of stuff from the tank.

I believe the US army conducted a very exhaustive series of evaluations with multiple flamethrower tank designs around 1942-3 to show just this.

And @Jetro: fuel tanks don't just "blow up", unless you're NBC. Look it up if you don't get the reference.




StrangerThanFiction

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#25 13 years ago

I think this topic (splodifying flamethrowers) has used up its potential (very limited) value. How about if we add flamethrower-shaped bagels to the mod?:deal:




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#26 13 years ago

I was looking around for the fuel that the Flammenwerfer 35 uses and the one site I found that even says what the fuel is says that it is gasoline.

I would like to find out more. Could you provide me with some links to the different kinds of fuel used by the Germans, Russians, and other countries used? I've been looking around but I can't find anything else besides a brief mention on wikipedia and one other website.

This is the only non-wiki webpage I could find that listed any kind of fuel at all.(Scroll all the way to the bottom)

http://www.geocities.com/area51/comet/6498/t2000ww2germansupportweapons.htm

You said the U.S. did tests on "various" flamethrower designs. By various did they mean various American weapons or did they get flamethrowers from other combatants as well?




King_Nothing100

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#27 13 years ago

It used oil, Flammöl Nr.19.




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#28 13 years ago

US$ 3 a gasoline gallon? Man, how lucky you are, in Europe even diesel is more expensive... (but actually most of our cars aren't huge big macho redneck thirsty SUV he he)




Fuzzy Bunny

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#29 13 years ago

Nighthawk, in a previous thread on flamethrowers I posted a link to the page of a guy who seems to be _the_ expert on WWII flamethrowers. At least from what I can tell from all the other pages I found.

The gentleman's name is Charles S. Hobson, and for $80 or so, if you can make it to the annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, he will let you play with one of his and torch an old car or something.

If you google for "Charlie Hobson" or "Charles Hobson" and flame throwers/flamethrowers, you'll find info (email contact) on him; he's very friendly and has answered all my emailed questions.




King_Nothing100

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#30 13 years ago