New Pick Up Kit: Multi-Mortar? -1 reply

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Frederf

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#1 12 years ago

Would it be possible to test and impliment a 3-mortar deployable to be used by the mortar carrier kit? The single mortar is not super effective, lobbing one shell every several seconds, that and you are supremely vulnerable if you managed to setup (the sound of firing is heard accross the map).

Could this 3-mortar battery be:

Operated by one person Have some bushes camo attached to it Pickupable Have a binocular for the kit Staggared firing of all tubes Overheat after 10 seconds of continuous fire, to promote timed bursts of mortar fire and not continuous.




Dios

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#2 12 years ago

Something like that should only be deployable from a vehicle, but definitively not a pick-up kit.




Frederf

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#3 12 years ago

I dun see why. 3 mortars could be carried by a small number of guys IRL.




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#4 12 years ago
FrederfI dun see why. 3 mortars could be carried by a small number of guys IRL.

Small number being five. Two people can drag one(I know I've move one, I've also assited in moving an 88, and a Brit 6 Pounder) Those things are not easy to move.

Thats without the ammuntion mind you.




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#5 12 years ago

could you have it it like the deployable MG's in the halftrack? if so then that would be cool and mortars arnt that hevey i can carrie one with one hand (but i do lift alot of weights so that mite be why)




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#6 12 years ago

And a soldier is not a little weakling either. He has been trained and trained and trained for weeks. If he wasn't fit already he is now a real strong guy. If he was really strong already then he is like teh guy that does all the grit work.




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#7 12 years ago
ANZACSAS and mortars arnt that hevey i can carrie one with one hand (but i do lift alot of weights so that mite be why)

We are talking about mortars here

Looky(C/P) http://www.mortarsinminiature.com/images/8cmreact-2.JPG This is a German 8Cm, comparable to the 3 inch. (Slightly bigger) The Tube weighs in at Fifty to Fifty six pounds. The Baseplate weighs an extra ten pounds. Each shell weighs between three to eight pounds.

So you have say the entire unit(Tube+Baseplate) Sixty pounds plus any ammuntion you want to carry.

So here is sixty pounds per morter plus ammo. Not that heavy right? Alright now march ten miles. I'll take this APC with its depoyable Morter and look it can carry sixty rounds of ammuntion no problem. I'll see you ten miles from now and see which of us is ready to fight.

And you want a pickup kit with multiple morters?




Christian von Schalburg

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#8 12 years ago

Adder you are totally right. It should be on the hanomag if it all in my opinion.




Frederf

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#9 12 years ago

Ok, as long as the hanomag can pick it back up and redeploy it elsewhere.

3 mortars = 3 tubes, 3 baseplates, ammo. That'd be 6 guys IIRC, 3 carrying tubes, 3 carrying baseplates+ammo.

I thought the FH soldier represented about 6 guys anyway. Since one plane represents a squadron, a Sherman represents a platoon, ect.

It's just the 1-mortar kit is just baaarley useful. It fires slow, has NEAR NILL splash damage, makes a huugely fat target, hard to find, can't spot for self, ect.




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#10 12 years ago

Frederf

I thought the FH soldier represented about 6 guys anyway. Since one plane represents a squadron, a Sherman represents a platoon, ect

What? Since when? I did not know this was Hearts of Iron with my magic invisible attack platoon backing me up and if I go down, my five friends went down with me. Far as I know FH caputures small slices of the war. Gazala had fourteen full miles of fortitifactions and we get to play in two miles of that. Charlie was one of fifty-two subsections of D-Day and we get to charge it but not Dog Red for example. That Panther represents one Panther. Tank battles happened between a dozen tanks at the same time. War can get complicated quick with numerous sub units fighting it out for one hamlet and FH can capture this.

FH takes four square miles and takes all combat that happened over several days then and condenses it into fourty five minutes(Or what have you.) I've never heard it being 1man=5 men or anything like that.

Your math is off BTW. Three man per tube, Baseplate and Tube switch off plus ammo man is his own person. So its three total equaling nine men not six. But then remeber morter squad so depending on the size of the tube its acutaly four(3+Lead) to six(8cm and up had more people for defense and carring ammuntion) per tube.




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