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General_Henry

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#1 12 years ago

this should be added, although it never happens lol




Flippy Warbear

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#2 12 years ago

You could have given more information about the operation to those who doesnt know (much) about it...




Fuzzy Bunny

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#3 12 years ago

Proposed German invasion of the UK, and I agree, it'd be a great "what-if" map. Plans were drawn up, invasion barges assembled (although the German force relied primarily on Rhine barges, which would probably have had problems in the North Sea) and the Luftwaffe sent on its merry way to ground the RAF.

OKW and Kriegsmarine estimates required that the Luftwaffe establish complete air superiority over the Southern UK before an invasion could have a realistic chance of succeding, and this was mighty close to being the case had not (apocryphal story?) an English raid on Berlin sent Hitler into a livid fury and caused him to call the bombers off the RAF airfields and factories and sent them on terror raids over London, Coventry and other cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sealion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sealion_order_of_battle

An essay about why it wouldn't have worked: http://gateway.alternatehistory.com/essays/Sealion.html

Interesting, from wwiivehicles.com:

Tauchpanzer III:

"Diving tank." 168 Ausf F, G, H, and PzBefWg III Ausf Es were converted from June to October 1940 for Operation Seeloewe (Sealion, invasion of Britain) by the 18th Panzer Regiment of the 18th Panzer Division. The air intakes were closed by rubber seals and the exhausts had non-return valves installed. An inflatable rubber seal was placed around turret ring. The hull MG and commander's cupola had rubber covers installed. There was a pump that removed excess water that got inside tank. When under water it would get air from a 59' long and 8" diameter hose which was attached to a float that on later models had a radio antenna. It could operate to a depth of 50' for around 20 minutes. Explosive charges were installed to the seals to be set off to remove the seals when tank reached dry land. A command vessel would communitate to the submerged tank via the radio to guide it.

The actual directive: http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/proc/direct16.html

I had a pretty good diagram of the planned progress of the invasion, but I can't find the damn thing.




MR.X`

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#4 12 years ago
Flippy WarbearYou could have given more information about the operation to those who doesnt know (much) about it...

You can't be serious. Seelowe? Invasion of Great Britain...

No, it shouldn't be added. Making this map would be taking away from maps based on battles that actually happened. Nothing beyond the Battle of Britain should be made until all factual battles are exhausted.




Major Hartmann

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#5 12 years ago

Don't wait for this one...




MR.X`

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#6 12 years ago

Thats my Hartmann.

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EDIT: Great to see that "Major Disinformation" is back.




Fuzzy Bunny

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#7 12 years ago
Major HartmannDon't wait for this one...

Too bad, really. Of all the "imaginary battles", this would have been by far the most probable. Operation Adler, the aerial suppression of RAF opposition, was basically the initial phase of Seeloewe; it constitutes what we now know as "The Battle of Britain". The invasion force was pretty much good to go.




Major Hartmann

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#8 12 years ago

Yep, but it didn't. And that's where it stops, except if some mapper wants to do that really bad and survives angry Taranov...




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#9 12 years ago

I can imagine the home guard as a new army, with Ross and P14 rifles, Northover Projectors, armoured trains, mmmm Northover Projector P.14 Ross rifle




Fuzzy Bunny

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#10 12 years ago
Major HartmannYep, but it didn't. And that's where it stops, except if some mapper wants to do that really bad and survives angry Taranov...

Too bad--I would have hoped you guys would be more open towards more operational flexibility. I mean, there's already quite a bit of historical license in the existing maps as is :-)

*ducks*




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