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psychonun

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#1 14 years ago

I was wondering if in any future releases if we'll be seeing B-29's, HE-162, ME-163, GO229's, Gloster Meteors, or Night Fighters with Radar for the Night maps(when/if they come)




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#2 14 years ago

The Me-163 is in already, but I think in just one map. Alpea;sldkfjttung, however the shit you spell it. The He-162 would be GREAT fun to fly, but it should be difficult to do so. For night fighters all we have to do is convert a few models over, make the Bf-110 a nightfighter variant, and change the P-38 into a P-61 Blackwidow. Plus, put some sort of radar on.

A b29 would look cool as an unusable object on Iwo Jima, but its tooooooooo big to fly in game. Maybe allow the turrets to be manned against planes, but thats about it.




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#3 14 years ago
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#4 14 years ago

The Go229 (is actually made by the Horton brothers and HO229) never actually even flew and Gloster Meteors were substandard till well after WW2, they did fighter sweeps but never say jet vs jet combat. You want an allied plane to catch jets then we need the Hawker Tempest and Spitfire XIV (the original BF1942 Spitfire model). LW fighter pilots acknowledge the Tempest as the bane of LW jets. Tempests would go down low as there top speed at sea level was un matched by any other plane, allied or axis while the XIV would fly high catching anything that got past.

The best allied night fighters were Beaufighters and Mosquito's. Blackwidows saw very limited service in the pacific very late in the war and they were not as great as history makes out. The first versions were under powered. In the ETO after 1943 there were hardly any need for allied night fighters because the LW were to busy trying to stop Lancasters, Halifax's and Stirlings during the night and B17's and B24's during the day.




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#5 14 years ago

USMA2010The Me-163 is in already, but I think in just one map. Alpea;sldkfjttung, however the shit you spell it. The He-162 would be GREAT fun to fly, but it should be difficult to do so. For night fighters all we have to do is convert a few models over, make the Bf-110 a nightfighter variant, and change the P-38 into a P-61 Blackwidow. Plus, put some sort of radar on.

A b29 would look cool as an unusable object on Iwo Jima, but its tooooooooo big to fly in game. Maybe allow the turrets to be manned against planes, but thats about it.

The map you speak of is Alpenfestung.

Instead of converting a P-38 into a P-61 which is a physical impossibility due to the P-61 being as big if not bigger than a B-25 you would be better off making a P-38M. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal2/1301-1400/Gal1363_P-38_Willis/gal1363.htm

And I have seen pics of FH P-61 floating around. Use the searchbutton and search for P-61 Blackwidow and the model pics might still be around.

On the FH website is a pic of a Bf-110 wearing a nightfighter skin. http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/vehicles/german/Bf110_night.jpg

Someone is doing a B-29 for FH and while Im sure it will be fabulous it is almost too big for the maps. A B-29 is a Strategic bomber and was not used in a tactical role in he Pacific. Only small Tactical bombers should be in FH. B-17 excluded since it was used as a tactical bomber in the Pacific until it was phased out in favor of the B-24.

IMHO what FH needs desperately right now is a Brit light and medium bomber like a Douglas A-20/DB-7, Bristol Blenheim and a Vickers Wellington, and a Russian light or medium bomber like the Pe-2 and Tu-2.




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#6 14 years ago

mondogeneratorThe Go229 (is actually made by the Horton brothers and HO229) never actually even flew and Gloster Meteors were substandard till well after WW2, they did fighter sweeps but never say jet vs jet combat. You want an allied plane to catch jets then we need the Hawker Tempest and Spitfire XIV (the original BF1942 Spitfire model). LW fighter pilots acknowledge the Tempest as the bane of LW jets. Tempests would go down low as there top speed at sea level was un matched by any other plane, allied or axis while the XIV would fly high catching anything that got past.

The best allied night fighters were Beaufighters and Mosquito's. Blackwidows saw very limited service in the pacific very late in the war and they were not as great as history makes out. The first versions were under powered. In the ETO after 1943 there were hardly any need for allied night fighters because the LW were to busy trying to stop Lancasters, Halifax's and Stirlings during the night and B17's and B24's during the day.

In the book "Deathtraps" Belton Cooper mentions that from the time he landed at Normandy til early 1945 the maintenance crews had to excercise very strict blackout procedures since even a accidental exposure of light almost always brought German bombers dropping HE and frag bombs and something called Butterfly bombs.

Belton Cooper also witnessed a night interception of a Ju-88 by a P-6 and said the light show when the P-61 let loose on the poor Ju-88 was astoundingl.

Beaufighter was OK but was not all that great nd was replaced by the Mosquito NF. US night fighter crews started out on P-70's, then transitioned to reverse lend lease Beaufighters, and then went to P-61's.




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#7 14 years ago

Go/Ho 229 is on Alpenfestung too.




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#8 14 years ago
Anlushac11and something called Butterfly bombs.

Those were the first cluster bombs. They were 2 kg bombletts that had a casing that would open to slow their decent. Originally, they actually had the things individually placed on the underside of an aircraft. Unfortunately, if they didn't all drop during the attack, when the aircraft landed they would get jarred loose onthe runway. To remedy the problem, they placed the bombs in large aerodynamic containers that split down the axis after falling a certain distance. Thus, the first cluster bomb was born.




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#9 14 years ago

"IMHO what FH needs desperately right now is a Brit light and medium bomber like a Douglas A-20/DB-7, Bristol Blenheim and a Vickers Wellington, and a Russian light or medium bomber like the Pe-2 and Tu-2." Devs, you should listen to Anlushac11, he seems to be on to some great ideas here. Would also like to see Mitsubishi Dinah, Bristol Beaufighter, Lockheed Hudson, Henschel Hs123 and Hs 126 (with 75mm cannon)




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#10 14 years ago
psychonunI was wondering if in any future releases if we'll be seeing B-29's, HE-162, ME-163, GO229's, Gloster Meteors, or Night Fighters with Radar for the Night maps(when/if they come)

I just finished the autobiography of Adolf Galland, who was the "General der Jagdflieger" (Commander of the German Fighter Corps) during the major part of WW2.

He has a very clear opinion on the HE162, and he considered it to be (quote) "a drastic step back as a fighter compared to the Me 262" (unquote) and he opposed the plan of the "Volksj├Ąger" (people's fighter) on every occasion possible.

He points out in his book that the technical data of the He 162 was way lower than the Me 262's ones (although he does not state exactly which data), and above all, that any production capacity dedicated to the He 162 would reduce the production capacity for the Me 262, which was proved and ready to go into series.

The production of the He 162 only started in March, 1945, and by the time the war was over, only some 200 He 162 existed - which were captured by the advancing Russian troops (according to Galland).

So, I don't think this plane ought to be very much high priority. But as always, the Devs will decide. ;)