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Fuzzy Bunny

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#11 13 years ago

Anlushac11;3350451The Italians had Libyan garrison troops and Ethiopian garrison troops.

IIRC the Italians called them Colonial troops. They appeared to be mostly black.

The Italians had some Libyan Arab scouts, but due to Graziani's brutal repression of the uprising between the wars, overall they weren't so friendly towards the Italians. However, an account I read of the battle of Kufra (1941) lists about 350 Libyan troops among the Italian defenders.

Nor were the Ethiopians terribly happy about serving the Italians, although significant numbers of them went over to the Italians in 1936-1937. The majority of black Italian troops were Eritrean and Somali, and I don't believe large numbers served in North Africa. Have a look at this link for some detailed discussion:

http://www.comandosupremo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=321&sid=9fbd8bcaedb9737d837dc9183fde7cf4

Also I seem to remember the Brits had Senegalese troops who were black.

Senegal was a French colony, and significant numbers served in the French army. The British had a unit called the KAR (King's African Rifles) but I believe they were mostly white until just before the end of British colonial rule. I understand there were some British Somali units and possibly Nigerian & Kenyan units, but I don't think they fought ouside of Ethiopia in 1940/41...




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#12 13 years ago
Flippy Warbear;3350030While it would be rather realistic to have ie. women in the Red Army as IRL. But tbh, I much more like it to be old casual style men vs men like it basically was. If to include women and different races to one's armies, might aswell include the jungvolk and other children soldiers... :/

Ok, but it wasn't always the white men vs white men or white men vs Japanese. Example there was a distinguished Japanese-American unit that fought in Italy. Black troops fought along side white troops in Battle of the Bulge. Native Americans in the pacific. And they fought just as hard as anyone else.

So what's the big deal in adding them where appropriate? Everbody loves to talk about realism or immersivness, well this is realism, this is immersiveness. It's a feature that would remind you you are playing a Global War and people from all over the world were involved, something most WWII games ignore. From that stand point it makes sense, and would add alot to the mod especially one that has a focus on historical accuracy.

I certainly won't accept the "There's other more important things to worry about" arguement since I doubt any non-devs are running around with a copy of FH2s design doc. And if you are call me and I'll make an offer:deal:.(in response to Peo partly)

And I certainly don't understand the comment comparing the in appropriatness of adding diverse troops to adding the Hitler youth.




Mad Cat

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#13 13 years ago

i dont think the local population was pleased with nazi occupation, so id have to go with no battles between arab brigades and allies...




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#14 13 years ago

Problem is, how would you change voice files from men to women? Pick up a Ruskie sniper kit, you look like a chick...but sound like a man...:lol:




Bourkey

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#15 13 years ago

^Hmm good point. Also if you look into the Nth African campaign in 1940/early 41, although it was under the British Middle Eastern Comman, Indian divisions were the only large trained force, to go on the offensive in Operation Compass followed by the mostly untrained ANZAC's before the invasion of Greece. I'd strongly support the inclusion of their skins as part of the british army but since they are dissimiliar to the arabic skin, i see this as unlikely




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#16 13 years ago

Yeah, FH2 needs more race and sex. I still think you should do a souped up Kubelwagen with a Maybach V12 engine for the race and a few beautiful frauleins in the back seat for the sex. :naughty:

Seriously, there's no need for women in the battlefield, unless you're going to make them look like Lara Croft. I wouldn't mind seeing the occasional black engineer in the field.




Mad Cat

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#17 13 years ago
RussianComrade;3353251Problem is, how would you change voice files from men to women? Pick up a Ruskie sniper kit, you look like a chick...but sound like a man...:lol:

what kind of normal chick would join the army anyway?:p




SacredLizard

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#18 13 years ago
Diabolos_;3356509Yeah, FH2 needs more race and sex. I still think you should do a souped up Kubelwagen with a Maybach V12 engine for the race and a few beautiful frauleins in the back seat for the sex. :naughty:

THERE'S YOUR RACE AND SEX, SIR.




Fuzzy Bunny

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#19 13 years ago

Diabolos_;3356509Yeah, FH2 needs more race and sex. I still think you should do a souped up Kubelwagen with a Maybach V12 engine for the race and a few beautiful frauleins in the back seat for the sex. :naughty:

Seriously, there's no need for women in the battlefield, unless you're going to make them look like Lara Croft. I wouldn't mind seeing the occasional black engineer in the field.

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