Replacement for Sherman on Pacific Maps -1 reply

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Gunfighter 14

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#1 15 years ago

Now on most Pacific maps, the Sherman is seen as the Tiger of the Pacific Front, because practically all the Japanese tanks can do are blow their noses at the Sherman. Now since I am new to the forums, I did check that this was brought up, and it has but it seems like no one thought of something to replace the Sherman with. My idea would be to maybe replace the Sherman with maybe the M3 Grant if made for the mod, or hell a M3 Stuart could probably take on all the Japanese tanks. This would make a few maps much more enjoyable like Guadacanal, Saipan, and Makin.




Artie Bucco

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#2 15 years ago

By that logic we should remove Tigers and Kingtigers because the Allies and the Russians don't have tanks that compete with them on some maps.




perry07

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#3 15 years ago

like berlin. but i do see what you mean, sherman is king of the pacific maps.




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#4 15 years ago

Any good Sherman tanker will easily gun down a Ha-Go or Chi-Ha. The Sherman is practically invulnerable to the Ha-Go. Now the Tiger of the European Fronts would easily gun down a T34, but T34 has better variants like the T34-85 and other tanks to add in gunning the tiger down. Now the Japanese at best have the AT grenades, which are a joke to the Sherman, expacks, landmines, and bombs. The bombs are gonna be the best thing used to engage the Sherman, maybe I had terrible air support on Guadacanal, but how easily the Sherman outclasses the Japanese tanks is astounding. The Chi-ha is practically the only tank that could engage the Sherman, as it is invulerable to the Ha-Go in the front. However, the M3 Grant would probably have similar problems but the tank could at least if nessacary be engaged from the front




Starfighter

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#5 15 years ago

The US used more Stuarts in the early days of the war, the Sherman came out later on. Infact the battle that took place at Nomonhan was only the first time the japs ran into the Sherman, and T-34. Then got their ass kicked there.




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#6 15 years ago

Japanese should get Chi Ha special with 47mm gun, type 3 heat grenades and type 97 anti tank rifle.




2ltben

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#7 15 years ago

Since when has FH been a mod of balance? Shermans were powerful, but they were common. If anything should be taken out of the Pacific maps it should be the Thompson. The M1A1 Thompson wasn't issued to Army units in the Pacific, only some managed to procure them. Only the M1928 was, and in very few numbers, iirc.

*edit* Just because Jap armor sucked doesn't mean they could take out Shermans. Japanese engineers would charge Shermans and try to plant explosives to disable them(disabling should be more common than outright blow-up-dome in FH). That's where the tanker phase "Scratch My Back" comes from. The next tank in line would open up on the tank the Japs were at with it's coaxial MG and hose it down, trying to keep away from the engine if possible.




[BFE]projecTile

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#8 15 years ago

replace the thompson with the greasegun should do the trick, sherman with stuart is a good idea as well and will give more balance to several maps. you could as well mix up Chi-Ha versus Stuart is actually a pretty good fight with advantage to the ChiHa. 3 Stuarts versus 2 Chi-Has shoudl however be a fair fight.




FactionRecon

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#9 15 years ago

I say leave it as it is now. I've seen the Japs win on many an occasion just because the Americans couldn't push past the defences or the Japanese employed flanking/wrap-a-round tactics to take out the American tanks.

Just like in reality, you have to use what's given to you in the best possible way, and if that means getting 3 tanks to coordinate in order to take out a Sherman, then that's that.




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#10 15 years ago

Well, realisical, the M4 Sherman most likely would not be at the battles at Guadalcanal, and Adak Island, unless the ships that were transporting them hauled a** to Guadalcanal. The Marines that landed at Guadalcanal were equiped with M2A4 and M3 Stuart light tanks. Adak Island was too a few months to early for the M4 Sherman.