Requesting Trecers for SMGs/STG44/FG42 -1 reply

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Starfighter

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#1 13 years ago

I think I speak for alot of people when I say these weapons need tracers. people are starting to exploit the fact they don't have any with short bursts at 1200 yards away and it's getting to be a common tactic on the fallowing maps: Omaha, Gold, Crete, Valerisk, Tarawa, and many of the old BF maps. Histroicly these weapons had tracers, and historicly all weapons but the fallowing had them: Sniper Rifles, Rifels, Pistols, Semi-Atuomatic Rifles. If you still don't beleave me go look it up, many times you'll find that things like SMG gunners in buildings were found by looking for the tracers. It's somthing alot of games, and movies never reaserch is witch weapons actualy had them.




MR.X`

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#2 13 years ago

I do agree. Tracers are needed on more weapons.

Oh, and I do believe this is the third time I have told you this. The correct lines of the poem in your signature go as this:

And when it gets to heaven To Saint Peter he shall tell- One more soldier reporting, Sir I've served my time in hell.




schoolkid

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#3 13 years ago

I think it's one of those sayins/poems that have different variations. And are you sure it's "it gets to"? Rather than "he gets to?




MR.X`

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#4 13 years ago

Probably. But you never know, "he" really might be "it". Could be something freakish and monsterous.

My version just sounds better, it rhymes.




terminal-strike

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#5 13 years ago

Well I could see the option for it being given, but tracer use dependent mainly for if the weapon would be used for suppresice fire (peopel see bulllets and duck) and for sitionts to expidate aiming.

Tracers give away a persons positon, so most troops would not use them even if they were avaible unless they were using there weapon as suppresive fire to intimidate the enemey. Or alernativlely when they needed a extra boost aimin, and it would be easier to see where bulelts went.

THey could also be used to tell wehen a gun was out of ammo, for example on every 5 after 3 tracers you would knwo there was only 5 bullerts left in a 20 round clip. Also, 3 could be put at the end, so if you were fired 3 tracers in a row u would know the clip was about down.

THis is kinda ot (well semi releated on the subject of ammo), but does anyone know how often/much the 30 round clip on the m1 carbine used.




McGibs

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#6 13 years ago

Can you give us a source?

Having tracers for anything other then a machine gun seems like the stupidist thing someone could do. sniper rifles? come on!

tracer rounds are also quite a bit more expensive then standard rounds. magnesium isnt cheap.

I'll belive it when I see it.




terminal-strike

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#7 13 years ago

hmmm I think he said everything but sniper rifles (and those other ones).

Im quite skeptical of this, as I have not heard of them being used in smgs or those either. If anything a lot of the hmgs probably did not use much tracers either. (as you pointed the expese etc.)

My knowedlge of tracers is mainly for later weapons. For example that bit about the tracers in the magazine was somethign peopel did in nam. Also somtimes special ops will more tracers in a gun to create the illison there'smore people fireing then there really are.




McGibs

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#8 13 years ago

ohh, i missed the 'but' in there. my bad.

"historicly all weapons but the fallowing had them: Sniper Rifles, Rifels, Pistols, Semi-Atuomatic Rifles."

...so SMGs and MGs? XD

Still seem's iffy on the smg part.

Tracer's are mainly designed for aircraft MGs and AA guns, who dont have the luxury of compleatly reliable sights.




tvih

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#9 13 years ago

Yeah well, I sure wouldn't want to use tracers on SMGs and such in real life. At least from my experience with an assault rifle, I wouldn't have even seen the tracers. Maybe in dark conditions, but not in moderate daylight. And basically it'd only be useful for shooting from the hip or something. And what sort of a difference it'd make in FH the end?

If someone does decide to give SMGs tracers in FH, well, can't stop 'em, and don't have anything major against 'em, but I don't see the point.




Peo

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#10 13 years ago

SMG:s use the same ammo as a pistol, therefore they had no tracers. At the effective range of a SMG they are not needed either. The only weapon that used tracers were and are machineguns and then they are used mainly to aim the area fire which machineguns are mainly used for. However many large calibre guns had tracer rounds to aid in nightfighting.