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Lobo

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#11 15 years ago
Mr.Panzerschrekuuum i think Raptor is talking about the anti infantry charges on later german tanks that were launched in the same manner as smoke grenades, and ya that would be awesome to have

You have research about this to know wich kind of explosives they used, wich tanks, year or battles were used, etc?




yuiop

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#12 15 years ago
LoboYou have research about this to know wich kind of explosives they used, wich tanks, year or battles were used, etc?

They were called Nahverteidigungswaffe. From what I can tell it was actually a small port from which the tank crew could fire various things, including flares and anti-infantry explosives. On the 'characteristics' tab, the first link gives some info on the rounds used. It also says that the tanks that had it were the "Tiger I, Panther, Jagd Panther, Tiger II, Jagdtiger, Sturmtiger, StuG III, Pzkpfw IV and other late war German Armored Fighting Vehicles from March 1944 on."

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Capsule/2930/NahVtdgW/artnahvtdgw.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahverteidigungswaffe




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#13 15 years ago

Are we gonna see smoke screen capabilities for ships aswell? Would be sweet to be to escape the wrath of a battleship by hiding your destroyer in smoke and then fleeing.




Pietje

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#14 15 years ago
{TDB} BravowhiskyAre we gonna see smoke screen capabilities for ships aswell? Would be sweet to be to escape the wrath of a battleship by hiding your destroyer in smoke and then fleeing.

Well to be honest, i doubt ships ever used smoke in world war 2, so unless you have proof of this, then no, afterall this is a realism mod, and i prefer to keep it that way.




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#15 15 years ago

What WOULD be cool, is if on bombing objectivemode maps, the defenders could put up smokescreens over the targets, to make it harder to bomb them without flying smack dab into the ground.




Mr.Panzerschrek

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#16 15 years ago
PietjeWell to be honest, i doubt ships ever used smoke in world war 2, so unless you have proof of this, then no, afterall this is a realism mod, and i prefer to keep it that way.

uuuuh you doubt this why???




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#17 15 years ago
PietjeWell to be honest, i doubt ships ever used smoke in world war 2, so unless you have proof of this, then no, afterall this is a realism mod, and i prefer to keep it that way.

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#18 15 years ago

Thanks for the back up guys. Smokescreens were used a lot of escape from battle and attacking aircraft. The Prince of Wales used one to obsure its shape and escape from the gunners of the Bismarck and Prinz Eugen.




Mr.Panzerschrek

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#19 15 years ago
jesusfetussmokescreen.jpg

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#20 15 years ago
PietjeWell to be honest, i doubt ships ever used smoke in world war 2, so unless you have proof of this, then no, afterall this is a realism mod, and i prefer to keep it that way.

As a lot of people have just said before me, smokescreeen were realy common, especially used by destroyers to cover themself, and friendly ships. It were used often in the Murmansk convoy when the German heavy ships came out to sea for a rape.

The usual procedure was that the smaller escort smoked in their escorting material.

Example: During the allied withdrawn from Norway, the RN carrier HMS Glorious had evacuated all the RAF planes from fieldbases in Norway. She were escorted by two unlucky destroyers HMS Ardent and Acasta. The two roaming German slachtshiffes Gneisenau and Sharnhorst spotted this small carrier force in full speed heading for Scapa Flow. Then the slaughter began...the German slachtshiffes opened fire at a long range, so the RN destroyers couldnt do any effective counterattack. The only thing they could do, were to lay a massive smoke screen around the Glorious. The Glorious tried to turn back to the main convoy (consisting by HMS Ark Royal and various ship, including the HMS Warspite). Under the cover of the smoke, the destroyer HMS Acasta managed to get close enough to launch a torpedo attack on the Scharnhorst. She hit a critical hit right below the Caesar turret. But after one hour, both the destroyers and the Glorious were sunk...

Smoke can't win battles, but it can delay it, in wait for reinforcements, or as cover as noted above.

300px-German_battleship_Scharnhorst.jpg Scharnhorst firing at HMS Glorious.

gerdestroyer.jpg A heavy smokescreen seen from a surface vessel. Notice how the smokescreen gives complete cover.

168gloriu.jpg HMS Glorious sinking.