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Starfighter

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#1 14 years ago

I did some searching and found that in FH all that it is realy lacking is not proper uniforms, but proper backpacks! I dont know about the FH mod devs, but the lack of proper backpacks on solders is what I realy think should be changed, give SMG gunners backpacks, Support Gunners should have em too, dif backpacks for each class, mabe not for the Russians cause most of them had almost no equipment. But for the Germans, Brittish, Japanese, and US they should all have dif packs and helmets. My second thing is that the FH team is giving camo to everybody. What do they think this is modern warfare? This is WW2 not modern day combat where you spend have the time hiding from the enemy. Back then most camo outfits wen't to the elite solders, and most of them still did not get any at all. Here is my solution to this growing problem: Give camo to the pickup kits insted, not every solder on the map. The pickup kits that should get camo are as fallows: STG-44 kit Sniper kits Mortar kit depolyable MG kits I have the same prob with vehicles, you know how long it took to paint a TK? like 12 hours, thats a long time to spend painting a tank. Most tanks did not get camo on them, there was no time. My solution is this: Give camo to vehicles based on the division that was in the actual battle, if it was not a elite division fighting in that battle, then no camo for the vehicles. My ending statment is that this mod prides it's self on realism, so is this not a better, cooler, and more realistic way to do this? Ask youself: do you think that everything in camo is realistic devs?




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#2 14 years ago
But for the Germans, Brittish, Japanese, and US they should all have dif packs and helmets.

What are you talking about? most countries implemented a standard rucksack that most soldiers got. And different helmets? What's wrong with the current helmets? At least I don't see anything.

Back then most camo outfits wen't to the elite solders, and most of them still did not get any at all. Here is my solution to this growing problem:Give camo to the pickup kits insted, not every solder on the map. The pickup kits that should get camo are as fallows:

Not necessarily true. A lot of field-made camo was in effect. Soldiers wrapped themselves in Zeltbahn, a type of camo blanket used for tents. It was very good at wrapping around yourself. Many soldiers also made uniforms out of the sheets of zeltbahn. How do I know? Easy, because I have an original field-made splinter-camo tunic. Sure not everyone had it. However, it wasn't difficult to make you're own camo. Here is 2 pictures that show field-made camo uniforms. http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v153/Cason/scan0145.jpg http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v153/Cason/scan0144.jpg On the topic of tanks, once again that's a false comment. Many crews custom-painted their tanks to their enviroments. For instance, white-wash in the winter, green and red swirls and what not for the spring. Factory painting may have taken a while, but most of them got factory paint. It was up to the crew to camo them according to the enviroment in most cases. Tell me this doesn't look a lot better then the bland-ass regular Tiger http://www.normandybattlefields.com/mapphotos/25-tiger_tank.jpg Why take all the camo stuff out of FH pretty much? I think the camo adds a lot of realism to it. Go play vanilla and you'll see how bland the vehicles and the soldiers are without camo.




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#3 14 years ago

I doubt it is possible to give a camo uniform to pick up kits anyway, all you get when picking up a kit it the helmet and the backpack. On a sidenote it would be nice to see MP40 Soldiers having those ammunition bags as seen in this pic http://site27663.dellhost.com/Wehrmacht/Images/Uniforms/uniform%20mp40%201B.jpg




Starfighter

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#4 14 years ago
'[BFEprojecTile']I doubt it is possible to give a camo uniform to pick up kits anyway, all you get when picking up a kit it the helmet and the backpack. On a sidenote it would be nice to see MP40 Soldiers having those ammunition bags as seen in this pic http://site27663.dellhost.com/Wehrmacht/Images/Uniforms/uniform%20mp40%201B.jpg

I just want more veritiy thats all. I think it would be cooler to have some solders in camo and some not, and yes I know there was alot of field made camo, but most solders smiply did not have the timeto make em, they were to busey fighting, or dieing to care much about if they had camo. Look at those black and wihte movies of war stuff in WW2 not every solder has camo, and most sertanly not hole divisons, mabe the camo thing is good, but it lacks the random apeal that was in real life. I think the BF:V, or BF2 engene could fix this matter for ever. But the devs are dead set on not porting so it's off I gess. I just dont want every map to have camo solders, it would get bland agian, and loos the nice toch of realism, I just want less maps with camo on them.




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#5 14 years ago
StarfighterI did some searching and found that in FH all that it is realy lacking is not proper uniforms, but proper backpacks! I dont know about the FH mod devs, but the lack of proper backpacks on solders is what I realy think should be changed, give SMG gunners backpacks, Support Gunners should have em too, dif backpacks for each class, mabe not for the Russians cause most of them had almost no equipment. But for the Germans, Brittish, Japanese, and US they should all have dif packs and helmets. My second thing is that the FH team is giving camo to everybody. What do they think this is modern warfare? This is WW2 not modern day combat where you spend have the time hiding from the enemy. Back then most camo outfits wen't to the elite solders, and most of them still did not get any at all. Here is my solution to this growing problem: Give camo to the pickup kits insted, not every solder on the map. The pickup kits that should get camo are as fallows: STG-44 kit Sniper kits Mortar kit depolyable MG kits I have the same prob with vehicles, you know how long it took to paint a TK? like 12 hours, thats a long time to spend painting a tank. Most tanks did not get camo on them, there was no time. My solution is this: Give camo to vehicles based on the division that was in the actual battle, if it was not a elite division fighting in that battle, then no camo for the vehicles. My ending statment is that this mod prides it's self on realism, so is this not a better, cooler, and more realistic way to do this? Ask youself: do you think that everything in camo is realistic devs?

Concening the camo, there is no rule saying you can only paint camoflague in battle. All camo was either adhoc with tankers throwing branches and netting and whatnot on their tanks, or they spent their time not in combat painting them.

However, concerning painting, one thing I'm hoping FH will eventually do is have side-specific paint schemes, so if an ANZAC hops into a Panzer IV some Aussie flags will be thrown on it in a few places. This will greatly reduce friendly fire since it seems 3% of the FH community uses their minimap.

As for kit camo, I can't think of anywhere in FH where anyone but Germans get camoflague that wasn't standard issue, and even then they're not your average Landsers, they're SS. As for only certain kits getting SS camo, it's pointless. In WW2 battles containing SS and Heer fighting alongside eachother were very few and far between, so it'd be either all or none. It'd also be a bitch to program since the engine would consider this an entire new nationality.




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#6 14 years ago
I doubt it is possible to give a camo uniform to pick up kits anyway, all you get when picking up a kit it the helmet and the backpack. On a sidenote it would be nice to see MP40 Soldiers having those ammunition bags as seen in this pic http://site27663.dellhost.com/Wehrm...20mp40%201B.jpg

I'm not sure but I that the pouches change when you pick up a different kit. For at least the STG I know they do, look at the external view, then pick up something, notice the changes around the waist. They still don't have the damn K98 pouches done I don't think. Star - A lot of maps don't have camo, Stalingrad, Fall WeiƟ, Berlin to name a few. I'm sure there are more I can't remember. Most of the camo uni's seem to be on maps that involve forested areas, which is correct. Where we sit right now, there are a lot of those maps. slighty OT - Remove the damn helmet cover from the german camo, or at least make it right. They wouldn't be wearing some neon green crap into combat. Give it the splinter camo cover or the dot camo.




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#7 14 years ago

Starfighter, don't you think you are demanding too much some times?




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#8 14 years ago

I don't think he really knows the difficulty of coding on an engine without a proper SDK.




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#9 14 years ago
StarfighterI did some searching and found that in FH all that it is realy lacking is not proper uniforms, but proper backpacks! I dont know about the FH mod devs, but the lack of proper backpacks on solders is what I realy think should be changed, give SMG gunners backpacks, Support Gunners should have em too, dif backpacks for each class, mabe not for the Russians cause most of them had almost no equipment. But for the Germans, Brittish, Japanese, and US they should all have dif packs and helmets. My second thing is that the FH team is giving camo to everybody. What do they think this is modern warfare? This is WW2 not modern day combat where you spend have the time hiding from the enemy. Back then most camo outfits wen't to the elite solders, and most of them still did not get any at all. Here is my solution to this growing problem: Give camo to the pickup kits insted, not every solder on the map. The pickup kits that should get camo are as fallows: STG-44 kit Sniper kits Mortar kit depolyable MG kits I have the same prob with vehicles, you know how long it took to paint a TK? like 12 hours, thats a long time to spend painting a tank. Most tanks did not get camo on them, there was no time. My solution is this: Give camo to vehicles based on the division that was in the actual battle, if it was not a elite division fighting in that battle, then no camo for the vehicles. My ending statment is that this mod prides it's self on realism, so is this not a better, cooler, and more realistic way to do this? Ask youself: do you think that everything in camo is realistic devs?

you cant have more than 1 skin per tema per map in BF1942 but its possible in BFV :)




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#10 14 years ago

will you people shut up about BFV already? jesuz.

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=129138 I am already working on giveing propor equipment to each nation (german gets it first, because they have the most stuff. Everyone else just has different shaped bags) as well as giveing new uniforms for all.

It's the mapper who decides who gets camo and who dont, and I agree that germans (its usually only germans that have camo) should have field grey unifroms in more maps (omahas, gold, etc etc) as for vehicals, pretty much every german war machine had factory camo by 1944 (it was standard, out of the box)

Please, read some other threads before you start creating rather pointless threads.




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