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EON_MagicMan

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#1 13 years ago

I think it would be neat if tanks had an actual hatch that was open all the time, and in the model was a (non detailed) box where a player model present. That was, it would be possible, because of BF2's exact physics and hitboxes, to jump on top of the tank and throw a grenade down the hatch. The player inside wouldn't be visible, but they would be vulnerable because of the nature of explosions, only to explosives that ended up in the tank (so even if, say by some fluke, a bomb landed in the hatch and wasn't powerful enough to destroy the tank, it would still kill the driver). It would take enough skill ot jump on the tank and throw a grenade down the hatch, and would be handy during cramped, urban combat situations for dispatching tanks. It would definitely be pretty neat, and would emphasize infantry cover for tank. Of course, this would take a lot of adjustments to the models and would probbaly very time consuming and painstaking to do, so I don't expect this idea to be taken very seriously. Still though, nothing beats jumping on a tank and throwing a grenade down the hatch-- and Halo 2 made this far too easy.




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#2 13 years ago

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BFE - Queen Naga

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#3 13 years ago

It could be a interesting and neat feature if it was very difficult to accompolish imo.

Though their should be a way of keeping the hatch open, but forcing it loose and dropping one in.




Who_Flung_Poo?

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#4 13 years ago

How exactly, in combat ,would you drag the welding equipment necissary to pry open a tank hatch?

Also, in any combat situation the hatches would be closed and locked.




EON_MagicMan

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#5 13 years ago

Surely, you wouldn't keep it open, I can agree with that (But making a hatch able to open and close would be too pointless/hard, that's why it could be hardmoddelled so that it was open). I'm not so sure tank commanders kept it locked though, because more worrisome than someone busting in your tank would be needing a quick exit when there's a fire on the inside, creeping towards the ammo storage lock. Besides, you DO read stories about this happening in real life. Here's one Victoria Cross winner who got killed doing so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Gray_Leakey




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#6 13 years ago
Who_Flung_Poo?Also, in any combat situation the hatches would be closed and locked.

Not necessarily. It was not unheard of for tank commanders (at least the panzer comanders I'm familiar with) to try to keep in the hatch as much as possible, for optimal vision. Buttoned up a tank was almost blind. In a tank, the ability to see a target before it saw you was most often the difference in life and death. Experienced (and recklessly brave) tc's often tried to stay up top even when taking a certain amount of small arms fire, and sometimes even when firing the main gun. Indeed, in American tanks, it was common for commanders to stand outside the turret on the rear deck to fire the .50 cal.

In those situations when they were trying to navigate through urban streets, I'd guess the hatches were more likely open than not, just so the tank commander would have a better chance to see the enemy soldiers creeping out with their bazooka/PF at corner.




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#7 13 years ago

No thanks, urban combat is already ridiculously dangerous for tanks as is.




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#8 13 years ago

actually in urban situations id be quite surprised if the commander left the hatch open. ANy infantry could chuck a grenade or shoot inside if they left it open which is much more dangerous than not seeing. Even if he had time to see the bazooka he would most likely not be able to do anything about it anyways.




Komrad_B

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#9 13 years ago

I read the memoirs of a soviet tank commander, and he wrote that in urban combat situations they ALWAYS had the hatches closed, for the Germans had an habit of throwing potato mashers inside open-hatched tanks.




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#10 13 years ago

yeah, komrad, I have to agree with braun (btw this is MSzt Alexei. just under my usual name.)