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#1 10 years ago

This is a historical accuracy mod. I KNOW this.

Here's my complaint: Allies small arms own Axis small arms in every way. The sight on the No. 4 is easier to use, it shoots faster as well. It has no downside. The K98 has an awkward sight and fires slower with a smaller clip. Is this historically accurate? yes. I'll get to my suggestion at the end.

The Thompson is ridiculously powerful, accurate and has a very controllable recoil, AND 50 round clips. The MP40 is exactly the opposite in every way. In fact the 9mm bullets don't even seem to register with the person you're shooting at.

The AT rifles are about the same, except less damage and more shots is always more efficient then more damage and less shots, because if you get killed halfway through shooting at a tank, then the Boys gun will have fired more shots and done more damage.

Even the Brittish smoke grenade can kill people.

I suggest a change. I suggest that the Thompson be very slow to bring up the ironsights (it was heavy) and have a lot more recoil when firing. I suggest that the MP40 have LESS recoil and more damage for all 9mm, or at least make the 9mm blur sight like the 45.

The rifles I can't do anything about, but I suggest the Axis K98 Grenade launcher be faster to prepare given the rifles otherwise complete disadvantage to the No. 4. It's all based on the person using it, not a historical numerical figure, so the team has a little creative license to use here.

The Thompson is incredibly accurate as well. It's the ultimate small arm in the game, and the 50 round clips are just a kick in the shin. There were 20 and 30 round clips as well, how bout randomizing em?

Any other ideas on what CAN be changed without being historically inaccurate?

Thanks!




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#2 10 years ago

The Karabiner 98 was a far Superior weapon to the Enfield, Although the Enfield was faster, and had more clip capacity, the Karabiner was superior in its Ammunition, Accuracy, and Size, Hitler was so confident in the K98 he believed it was all his troops would ever need. The Thompson sub-machine gun was a devestating weapon of the day, most Machine Pistols wouldn't dare to take on the heavy .45 Caliber bullet the thompson shot, the Mp40 probably would have taken a thompson in accuracy, but as far as being a better weapon, i believe the trophy goes to the Thompson. AT Rifles were a dying way of taking out armored vehicles, by World War two they were rendered almost useless by advances in Armor, the hard puching .50 caliber rounds didnt have what it took to get through armor like they did in World War One, they were effectively outdated by World War Two. The smoke grenade has a small explosive charge in it, so its plausible.




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#3 10 years ago
Earwigger;4217624Even the Brittish smoke grenade can kill people.

The Mills bomb (and possibly the Stielhandgranate as well) can kill people simply by the throw.

I remember one time throwing a Mills bomb right at an enemy, he died and I got the "You killed X" message and seconds later there was the actual detonation and it killed another enemy.




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#4 10 years ago
Archimonde0_0;4217652The Karabiner 98 was a far Superior weapon to the Enfield, Although the Enfield was faster, and had more clip capacity, the Karabiner was superior in its Ammunition, Accuracy, and Size, Hitler was so confident in the K98 he believed it was all his troops would ever need. The Thompson sub-machine gun was a devestating weapon of the day, most Machine Pistols wouldn't dare to take on the heavy .45 Caliber bullet the thompson shot, the Mp40 probably would have taken a thompson in accuracy, but as far as being a better weapon, i believe the trophy goes to the Thompson. AT Rifles were a dying way of taking out armored vehicles, by World War two they were rendered almost useless by advances in Armor, the hard puching .50 caliber rounds didnt have what it took to get through armor like they did in World War One, they were effectively outdated by World War Two. The smoke grenade has a small explosive charge in it, so its plausible.

How's the K98 superior in size or weight or ammo?

K98k: 1110mm, 4,20kg, 755m/s with a 200grain bullet No4: 1130mm, 4,12kg, 740m/s with a 170grain bullet

That's all pretty much the same, you wouldn't notice a difference. Hitler was an insane idiot, by the way, he probably did like the K98 because it's what he used himself in WWI.




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#5 10 years ago

Once you get used to the K98 sights it isn't really any better or worse than the No4. The clip is smaller, yes. But you get twice as many clips and the reload animation is faster. By the way, where did you get the idea that it fires slower? I didn't notice any difference myself.

Moving right along, if "the 9mm bullets don't even seem to register with the person you're shooting at", you're clearly doing something wrong. I've killed and been killed many times with the MP40, it's just as deadly as the thompson. Also, why are you so troubled by clip size, 50 or 30, it really doesn't matter, it's not vBF2 where you have to empty a clip to kill someone.

As for the AT rifles, yeah, the British one is better, but who gives a damn, those things are useless anyway.




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#6 10 years ago
Crypulse;4217816As for the AT rifles, yeah, the British one is better, but who gives a damn, those things are useless anyway.

The Panzerbusche 39 or whatever penetrates about 10mm more armor than the Boyes AT rifle. Against infantry, the Boyes is better, as you can use it as a sniper rifle, but it sometimes doesn't even kill in one hit.




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#7 10 years ago

just give everyone a ppsh and be done with it :D




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#8 10 years ago
wjlasloThe2nd;4218036The Panzerbusche 39 or whatever penetrates about 10mm more armor than the Boyes AT rifle. Against infantry, the Boyes is better, as you can use it as a sniper rifle, but it sometimes doesn't even kill in one hit.

I meant useless against tanks, of course it can kill infantry but normal rifles are better for that.

BTW, the AT rifles have a tiny bit of splash damage around the place they hit (not sure why exactly, ask a dev). So sometimes a hit indicator pops up even through you actually missed and the target took the splash dmg, making it seem the target survived a hit.




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#9 10 years ago

I hate the make weapons even threads. Really They call it an arms race for a reason. Out due your enemy so that your gun is better than his gun.

This sums it up nicely.

Lastly I've fired a thompson, and its weight doesn't affect the speed you bring it up to aim. So that isn't a realistic thing either...




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#10 10 years ago

LOL Stray!