0.7 and FH2: Fan's Concerns -1 reply

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NoCoolOnesLeft

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#1 13 years ago

I feel as though this needs to be discussed, after making this post in an older thread I wondered how the fans might react to my concern:

NoCoolOnesLeftI'll be honest, and say that I'm not totally content with the Dev's decision to focus so much on BF2 at this current point in time. It's a big leap, and a good one to go to a new and far more improved engine, but the fact remains - many fans and new comers associate Forgotten Hope with Battlefield 1942. Many FH players (a good percentage) have stated that they do not intend to buy BF2 until FH2 arrives on the engine. Also, many players are putting their copies of BF2 down and going back to the good old mods for BF1942 and BF:Vietnam. If the fans are waiting for a new version of FH, then I believe that most of what is requested of the fans should be answered in 0.7. Mainly, the inclusion of much needed maps, weapons, vehicles and *cough* maps for the dedicated fans of certain *cough* Canada, Finland, Poland, France, Italy *cough* countries to play the new content on.

Also, Donitz, I know it would be daft for the Devs to produce so many amazing models and content for the countries that dont get so much attention and not have them in, but then again, FH has so many unused models for America, Germany, Russia and Britain for BF1942 that arent on any maps at all. So, really, where do we stand? It's confusing.

I just feel as though the "Wait till FH2, not included in 0.7" excuse is being used a little too much at times. When we were given the idea and a few small promises that we'd see the neglected countries get more attention in 0.7 (not to mention the so called 'Italian takeover') we're left standing here thinking "Wait a minute...months on and where the heck is it all?". Months ago, before BF2's arrival, FH 0.7 was planned to be the 'Going out with a bang' of all FH releases. So far though, most of the aims that were planned and discussed months ago for 0.7 seem to keep getting pushed into FH2 instead. It's a longer wait, and a wait the fans probably wont like.

Of course, dont take the wrong end of the stick here. I love FH, and I know the Devs put a lot of effort and their time into it, and I'm thankful of that (I mean as a betatester, I've dedicated a lot of time and effort myself to finding bugs, so that says something - I want to contribute here) but I just took this chance to voice my opinion (that I'm entitled to, so no flaming) and my concern for a mod I love.

In short:

Lets not focus on FH2 too much, it's not going to run off on us any time soon. Instead, lets focus on BF1942 FH where we can easily answer the fans cries because of the solid build we have on the BF1942 engine. With FH 0.7, it's just a case of adding content that is needed and that the fans would love to see. With FH2, it's a whole big deal, we have to rebuild a mod from scratch, and leave a BF1942 version unfinished.

Not to mention, we're jumping to a completely different engine too quickly when some of the dire content for BF1942 FH (M3 Grant, Catalina, Italy maps, ISU/SU series, M5 Stuart etc.) hasnt even surfaced yet.

Basically, I feel as though content that should be added in 0.7 is being brushed aside or held back in favor of bringing out a BF2 version of FH sooner. Because of this, many die hard fans (especially Europeans who saw 0.7 as a saviour, their chance to see their country get some much needed attention. E.g. Italian maps, more Polish content, less placeholders etc.) are concerned that 0.7 will lack content that they expected to see in 0.7, and they'll have to wait a long time (remember, FH2 first release will be British Vs. German only, so that's a long, long wait) to see the stuff they love in their favorite mods. I'm one of those fans, and I wanted to express my concern.

So, what better than a complete FH nut like me to make a poll so that the FH fans can show their concern and voice an opinion also.




SymZ

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#2 13 years ago

The move has been made, priorities have been shifted, .7 is approaching soon, I think this thread will do nothing at this point in the mod's development. Last week we had threads where people were concerned about if the FH team is commiting enough manpower towards the FH2 release in light of updates from the BG2 team etc. It feels like a total yo-yo effect on these boards sometimes.




McGibs

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#3 13 years ago

yeah, its a little late to change anything about it now me bucko.

Though I do agree with you.




Shade_PW

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#4 13 years ago

Well I personally enjoy all the attention that is given to the BF2 release but that is based solely on the fact that I have grown sick and tired of the BF1942 engine/physics/sounds...

But I see what you are talking about and understand you so I hope the devs will be able to find a good compromise between the BF2 and BF1942 release. :)




NoCoolOnesLeft

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#5 13 years ago

McGibsyeah, its a little late to change anything about it now me bucko.

Though I do agree with you.

I understand, and thanks for the input McGibs, it's much appreciated. However, I felt as though this needed to be brought up, and I was interested to see how many fans agree and dissagree.




Jochen Peiper

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#6 13 years ago

Mark my words, FH42 will be dead the minute FH2 is released.




obliviousnation

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#7 13 years ago

I'd have to totally disagree with this.

I think FH2 should be the main priority, 100%. FH 0.7 should be the side show considering bf1942 will no longer be used. I mean what is the point in putting all your effort into a mod for a game which no one will play after a month or so.

Lets face it, if FH wants the player base it better move it's arse and release for Bf2 or else no one will play it.

*Play nice Capone* - Chris




Rikupsoni

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#8 13 years ago

I disagree. Just finish 0.7 soon and put 100% work for the future, FH2. I doubt 0.7 will ever get the numbers of players what earlier versions got. Just look at ASE, less than 400 servers on Vanilla and few players, look at mods, very few players, XWW2 released new version, many people playing it even same numbers as earlier versions? BF1942 is almost dead..




Tas

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#9 13 years ago
Jochen PeiperMark my words, FH42 will be dead the minute FH2 is released.

I dont think so, it will die a slow death, i think.




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#10 13 years ago

naa i say fh2 all the way to hell with 0.7