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Ohioan

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#1 14 years ago

Reasons why this map should be removed from public servers:

A.) Bombers will spawn right in front of fighters that are taking off. This results in TKs and losing both a bomber and a fighter for the allies.

B.) The airfields are located at the very edge of the map, once again. When a bomber has to come back in for a reload, he has to go out of bounds and his crew loses half their life because they are being shot for betraying their country.

C.) All pilot classes, no parachutes. What the hell were they thinking? It dosent stop people from bailing. Just makes people kill themselves instead of the pilot who shot them down having a chance to kill them in the water or on the ground.

D.) Bombers are way too weak. A single BF109-g can kill it in a second. There is no way in hell that bomber is going to be crewed with 3 people and be a fun and realistic experience when its so weak. The BF109s are vastly superior to any planes the Allies have. Balance? No. Bombers need 6x as much armor, and the tail and turret guns need to HURT enemy fighters, like they did in .61. I unloaded on a BF110 for 10 seconds straight as he lost momentum in a climb with one of the guns, and it wasnt even smoking him. I was hitting too.

E.) Assuming the allies can get their bombers off the airfield, once you DO bomb the factories, there's still Axis running around and the game isnt over until they are dead. They could hide anywhere on that continent, in a building or hangar, and there would be no way to kill them (because theres no parachutes), thus extending the already painful map to several more minutes.

Devs, dont bite my head off. I love the mod, but this map is pretty bad.




Tas

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#2 14 years ago

I agree on most of what you said, but you can land planes easily on the axis side. But still its not easy to find all those axis soldiers.. and then battle them with your pistol.




Dee-Jaý

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#3 14 years ago

I´m afraid Ohion is right (although Bombers with 4x as many HP should be sufficiant).

Bombing the Reich is kind of crap the way it is at the moment. Better to stick with BoB for the time beeing...




D-Fens

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#4 14 years ago

this map won't work unless it's objective! I don't think bombers should get more HP, the factories are very easy to take out for a Lancaster




MkH^

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#5 14 years ago

Well, it's better to have no chutes than some idiots running around the enemy base with with pistols.

I don't think Messerschmits are that superior to allied planes.. Maybe against bombers, but against Spitfires and Hurricanes, it all comes down to pilots skills.




D-Fens

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#6 14 years ago

So have chutes and remove pistols for pilots, and make a second class like anti air gunner, or mechanic, guard or whatever whos armed and without para.




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#7 14 years ago
MkH^Well, it's better to have no chutes than some idiots running around the enemy base with with pistols.

If they are successful at running around killing with the pistol, they deserve to win, even if I am strongly against unrealistic charges and lack of teamwork.




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#8 14 years ago

OhioanReasons why this map should be removed from public servers:

A.) Bombers will spawn right in front of fighters that are taking off. This results in TKs and losing both a bomber and a fighter for the allies.

B.) The airfields are located at the very edge of the map, once again. When a bomber has to come back in for a reload, he has to go out of bounds and his crew loses half their life because they are being shot for betraying their country.

C.) All pilot classes, no parachutes. What the hell were they thinking? It dosent stop people from bailing. Just makes people kill themselves instead of the pilot who shot them down having a chance to kill them in the water or on the ground.

D.) Bombers are way too weak. A single BF109-g can kill it in a second. There is no way in hell that bomber is going to be crewed with 3 people and be a fun and realistic experience when its so weak. The BF109s are vastly superior to any planes the Allies have. Balance? No. Bombers need 6x as much armor, and the tail and turret guns need to HURT enemy fighters, like they did in .61. I unloaded on a BF110 for 10 seconds straight as he lost momentum in a climb with one of the guns, and it wasnt even smoking him. I was hitting too.

E.) Assuming the allies can get their bombers off the airfield, once you DO bomb the factories, there's still Axis running around and the game isnt over until they are dead. They could hide anywhere on that continent, in a building or hangar, and there would be no way to kill them (because theres no parachutes), thus extending the already painful map to several more minutes.

Devs, dont bite my head off. I love the mod, but this map is pretty bad.

a) the sense behind this is that someone takes off with the bomber, so that we don't have just fighters flying around on that map :) Anyway, I managed to get around the bomber and take off in no time.

b) this is true, a thing that helps: using the ammotrucks or landing. But I don't really think this is a problem because I usually get shot down before I can drop all my bombs. And if I don't, well then it's way easier to land , blow your bobmer up with AA and take a new one :)

c) most of them time you are over water anyway, what good is jumping out then? Anyway, I agree, chutes would be nice

d) agree 100%

e) agreed, though it is not such a problem to land somewhere and hunt those guys down with your revolver :)

IMHO this map rocks. I just love it, most intense airbattles I have ever seen in BF.




S1l3ntSt4lk3r

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#9 14 years ago

also can u get this map some COOP support?

the 11pzg server was playing COOP battle of britain and it was so good but i would love to play BTR too on COOP




DeepBattleTheory

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#10 14 years ago
D-Fensthis map won't work unless it's objective! I don't think bombers should get more HP, the factories are very easy to take out for a Lancaster

So bombers that can be blown up in one pass by a fighter, before they are even off the runway, sounds good to you? I see this happening all the time, especially at the beginning of the map, when the FW-190s and Bf-109s go straight for the runways and blow up the Lancasters in like 5 seconds. Pure BS However, I think the map is alright overall. It could be awesome with some tweaks.




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