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#1 13 years ago

As much as FH as improved upon the german paratroopers with custom skins etc, there are still more details that can be done! The current parachute style the Fallschirmjager have for crete is incorrect. They used a different style of chute reportedely the RZ-16 and RZ-20, that only had one cord going up as opposed to two, (based off a italian design). mini-fallschirmjager.jpg Rather then hanging vertical, they fell with there hands and feet out even after the chute deployed and then they landed on all fours and did a rolling manuver. They wore padded suits to aid doing this, but suffered injuries at a higher rate then the other system. There was also nearly virtually no control over direction, even less then of the 2-cord systems Another ramification of this is that they could not carry very much "beyond a pistol, grenades or perhaps a smg". Most of there eqipment was dropped in pods which they then had to go looking for. --> http://www.feldgrau.com/articles.php?ID=18 The chutes themselves of parachutist were normally white, but ones for other eqipment were often other colors. Note that pilots had a 2 system though. http://www.eagle19.freeserve.co.uk/crete.htm kretakarte.jpe also, paratroopers would normally use a special folding paratrooper knife of different design then the heer. ParaknifeA04.jpg The main thing though is about the parachutes, but I have no idea if the attachment point and chute can be changed like that. The idea of the eqipment containers having some more of the heavier weapons is also partialy represented to with the ammo boxes. There's other things though, such as the gliders (dfs 230 etc), but those are more of suggestions then of the historical details of the drop, and if it is possible to code the different style of chutes specifically this one cord design where you fall flat not feet first.




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#2 13 years ago

OT but I have seen pics of Fallschirmjägers with both flamethrowers and anti tank rifles, so it's reasonable both engineer and at are paratroopers in crete




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#3 13 years ago

Wait do you mean in the air or just on the ground? On the ground they could carry nortmal weapons once they got there main weapons out of the pods, which could carry quite a lot. Also the troops that landed in gliders would not have the same restriction.




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#4 13 years ago

Must have been a disgusting ride down,in a somewhat upright freefall position and out of control.However,the out of control part would be nice to see,since unsteerable parachutes are commonly used even today for military mass drops.




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#5 13 years ago
'[CoUkniu']Must have been a disgusting ride down,in a somewhat upright freefall position and out of control.However,the out of control part would be nice to see,since unsteerable parachutes are commonly used even today for military mass drops.

This system of one line and a circular chute has nearly no control even if your a expert, and for the majority it there would nearly none even less then the 2 rope system. There is varying degrees of steerable. Most systems with a circular uppper chute, and two lines going to the soldier such as used by german aircrews, and allied aircrews and paratroopers- had some but limted control even with limited training.




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#6 13 years ago

They are called "turnable" ,since you can have some say in which direction you want to land,but have almost zero forward speed to avoid collisions with other jumpers. Afaik,no parachutes in the ww2 era had much in the way of control,most(if not all)of them did not even have a top vent to keep them from swinging wildly . Edit:well,you could probably try to steer that 1-line freak if you had 3m long arms.:)




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#7 13 years ago

Aye yes that is true that that they were all fairly uncontrolled, but they did have more then the 1 line system. The real drawback of the one line system though was in landing. As it had a higher rate of injury and very little eqipment could be carried, less so then the other main style. The intial drop was followed by the key period of looking for there eqipment pods, to be ready to fight properly with better weapons.

The landings, such as on crete did use a mix of chutits and gldlers, and also landing the ju52s after soem area was taking. The landed ones and the glider borne troops of course did no suffer the same restricion in what eqipment could carry directly.

As for the freak long arms, heheh yes gumbi would not have as much issue there. I do not think they had things to pull though. Only if you were a expert could you conrol a little bit.

Its all probably a moot point though if the recoding and doing a new parachute style with only one wire etc. cannot be done. I have not any modification change the chutes that I have been able to tell, aside from just the design color. So the chutes could be made to be white (and in some cases other colors) like the RL ones.




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#8 13 years ago

Useless (at least for FH) Knife Trivia: the Fallschirmjager blade is a "gravity knife" - instead of folding, the blade slid in and out of the handle by way of gravity. (Slip the latch, point down, and you have a blade!) Silent and spring-free, it's still considered a switchblade in some locales, with the attendant legal issues. Still in use as late as the late '70s/early '80s, possibly longer. As I recall, there was some sort of a folding spike as well, forget the actual purpose of it.




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#9 13 years ago

oh yea it is sweet, there is some other modern para-knifes that are drop/slide out as well. I know what your talking about the spikey thing (pic below) They said it was a 'splicing pick'- im thinking it was for splcing rope maybe? It was fold out though not slide out like the main knife. ParaknifeB07.jpg




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#10 13 years ago

If the devs had enough time, I don't see why not. But there is only one map centered around these famed soldiers.