I have played this map some times and it played out like this. -allies rape the germans with machineguns and they never get a boot on land. -axis take over the allied defences in no time and camp the mainbase. Trench warfare my ass.. havent seen it happen yet.
I love that map! One of my favourite maps from the previous version. Ahh.... the Katuysha heaven ;)
Even without the arty, that map is awsome, and the arty just adds to the overall atmosphere of the war.
I agree, we need more servers running it. And stop bitching about it, just learn to take cover and not dash accross the map
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
I love the map, it might not be balanced but it has some strange gameplay i can't put my finger on, maybe it is the stress to try to keep the flag becausr you know you can get owned any minute? With a bit of balance (larger front, 4 flags -see above- it might work out quite balanced).
i think 4 flags will be too much, there would be more (boring) running for maps, in stead of defending the current position, and concentrating on the next. would disperse the troops.
maybe three, but i'm not sure about that either. moving the flags slightly further apart maybe, open the river a bit more (less out of bounds, possible to flank deper)
A rant about possible "Karelia" maps, don't read if not interested ;)
A map built to simulate the actual battle of Äyräpää-Vuosalmi would be very cool. Both sides would have infantry, planes and tanks, so it couldn't be blamed for a lack of vehicles. Basically it would feature an area divided from the middle by a river that is crossable from a certain point(s). The Soviets would attack from right to left (or top to bottom, doesn't really matter), trying to push the Finns away from the hills on the "Soviet side" of the river and then over the river, and eventually decimate the Finns from the other side of the river as well by taking all flags. Soviets would have an uncappable main and more tickets to simulate their overpowering numbers, but the Finns wouldn't have an uncappable flag at all. They'd have some StuGs and T-34s and AT guns to counter the Soviet armor, as well as 'schreck and 'faust kits (maybe spawnable 'faust 30, pickup 'schreck).
I'd make a map like this myself, if I knew how to make maps properly. Other possible choices would include the Portinhoikka area, and of course Tali-Ihantala. All three would include planes and vehicles, which would make the point I've often heard about Finn-Soviet battles being too infantry-based a moot one. Some Finnish FH fan who can map could try to make some of these for FH.
I could also make a note to those who point in the direction of Finnwars... it plays very differently than FH, and also it doesn't have Continuation War ('41-'44) yet. And it's not as pretty either. It's still a nice mod, but I'd still sure like these things in FH. But I guess that's a that's a Hope to be Forgotten :(
tvihI'd make a map like this myself, if I knew how to make maps properly. Other possible choices would include the Portinhoikka area, and of course Tali-Ihantala. All three would include planes and vehicles, which would make the point I've often heard about Finn-Soviet battles being too infantry-based a moot one. Some Finnish FH fan who can map could try to make some of these for FH.
I had a project with a friend of mine and we finished up a map called Tali-Ihantala for FH. :) If FH devs are OK, i post some shots of it? Or should i not as that map is already submitted to the contest. Altho one little shot, its the loader. (We are working on getting bots for the map too) And on the Karelia issue. Being a finn myself too, i love to play Karelia. But due old machine i got, 22 channels is what i use. And as finnish voices (what i like to hear during battles) are only on 44. This cuts me out and i usually play Karelia only with bots... and for the other reason, the one reason we are talking about, no servers having that map. But i like Karelia, definetly dont get rid of it.
I hate this map due to non-stop rapage.
I love it. Reminds me of the good old days of Operation Battleaxe :). It's so giddily fun to be on the winning side and listening to all the whining and complaining, and challengingly fun to be on the losing side and trying to circle round and turn the tides....
I don't see any problem with the map at all.. The Linear design makes for constant non-stop bloodbaths.. We have plenty of wide open spaces.. so it is a refreshing style of map.. no tanks either.. each side must rely on it's artillery.. If you don't use it.. you lose.. Requiring teamwork.. nothing wrong with that.. I'd like to see more servers running it as well I only know of 1 or 2 that have enough people on it to play..
hydra, you like that map cause of your pixlespotting whoreing :)
Flippy WarbearI had a project with a friend of mine and we finished up a map called Tali-Ihantala for FH. :)
:eek: Sounds cool :naughty: What armor did you put in for Finns? Pz747(r) and StuG? Dunno what's even available for the Finns, since as far as I know they've been made separate from the Germans now. Damn, if we could only get the T-34 and T-34/85 in Finnish colors.. ;)