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cheesemancrusader

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#1 14 years ago

I think most of us can remember back to vanilla where the common frag grenade was used more than the bazooka for an AT weapon. And now we get back in BFV, yay! My question is: Could The Common infantry man's frag grenade "hurt" a tank? If rolled underneath could it damage gears? (qestion applies to all tanks during WWII)




NoCoolOnesLeft

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#2 14 years ago

Probably not. Its not a controlled blast, and being a fragmentation grenade it'll only fires splinters of metal alloy everywhere, not really enough to break through armour and other metal. Maybe it might do some damage to the gears, im not quite sure.




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#3 14 years ago

99% of the time, no.




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#4 14 years ago

Grenades' damadge is cause by shrapnel, flying pieces of metal. The cut right throug human flesh and bones, but they do nothing against tanks.




ManiK

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#5 14 years ago

Actually I think I've heard somewhere that the concussive force of the blast could sometimes throw the treads off.




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#6 14 years ago

Weapons based on hurling fragments around is one of the reasons to build armoured transports instead of common trucks: the APC's.

APC are designed to protect their load from infantry (bullet) weapons and the fragments that fly around from artillery shells and aircraft bombs. ( unless the shells and bombs direct hit the APC ofcourse )

Early german tanks had similair armour for the same purpose, but short after they had to go up against enemy tanks ( at the start of the war most tanks were anti infantry ) armour steadily increased to resist anti tank munition also.

So no, a handgrenade does nothing to tanks, or APC for that matter. A handgrenade should damage trucks however, and should severly damage jeeps and motorcycles......and kill their driver/passengers ofcourse.

It is too bad we do not have "open" topped vehicles yet, where you can actually throw handgrenades in, and kill the crew inside.

The german stick handgrenade contained more explosives then the allied types handgrenades, and therefore was more suitable as a demolition charge. German soldiers were known to strap a few together to blow off enemy tank tracks, and other demolition purposes where they needed explosives, wich normal infantry ofcourse did not have......later in the war several stick handgrenades with only one stick was even a factory made product, ready to use.

Allied egg shaped handgrenades had less explosive power, but were filled with metal pellets that together with the metal casing would produce a wall of fragments in every direction killing or wounding soldiers. Allied handgrenades were deadlier, but entirely useless to attack (light) armoured vehicles, or even tank tracks.




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#7 14 years ago

Actually there were such things as anti tank grenades. The Germans had several AT rifle grenades, though I am not aware of their penetration capacities.

They also had one AT "grenade" known as Haft-Hohlladung which was magnetically attached to the side of a tank and had a shaped hollow charge which could penetrate 200mm. Japanese also had a grenade like this but there were not magnets, and the only other way to make them stay on the tank is to hold it there.

Another one was an AT hollow charge grenade known as Panzerwurfmine which had fins on the back to stabilize it in flight. It could penetrate 89mm of armor.

And they had one AT "grenade", the Blendkörper, which would make a small explosive (was to be aimed at air vents or other locations on a tank where air could be taken in) and release a large amount of smoke would fill the tank forcing the crew to bail.

Lastly and of course you could use regular frag grenades and hope to blow off a track or the much more effective Geballte Ladung, which was pretty much seven grenades together.

So there are plenty of AT grenades out there and many were produced in millions but do not expect a frag grenade to take out or damage a tank without a little bit of luck.




Artie Bucco

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#8 14 years ago

I have taken out flaming tanks in FH on several occasions with grenades.




perry07

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#9 14 years ago

i think in fh grenades will do damage to light armoured vehicles. i think they should make it so if you climb on top of a tank, you throw a grenade inside from the top gunners position, it should either damage the tank a lot or kill everyone inside it.




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#10 14 years ago

Cambo: you think? Ah, another expert who have seen SPR... On topic: huge throwable satchelcharges would have been great instead, geballte ladung for germans and mills bombs for american/english (molotovcoctail for the finnish ;) ) But as i remember wasnt it something in an earlier update about rpg43 and gammon bomb? Will we finally get rid of the weird expac? :bows: