Has the USA ever used AT-rifles before ? -1 reply

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SacredLizard

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#31 13 years ago

foodmaniac2003;3457962IIRC famed sniper "Vasili Zaitsev" made a couple inventions including i think a AA variant of the PTRS or something like that.[/quote]

[quote=foodmaniac2003;3458156]I dont remember if it was the ptrs or not, but it was claimed that Zaitsev made an AA device out of some sort of AT rifles.

hehe, "it was claimed". looks like you are the one doing the claiming :) wink-wink-wink-wink but seriously, I would love to hear more about this, I find it mildly interesting.




Crazy Wolf Advanced Member

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#32 13 years ago

It sees there were fery few tanks engaged by the USA, and most of those weer knoecked out by artillery or American tnaks. This left a wholebunch of AT equipment doing nothing. Also, keep in mind Japanese tanks were about as common as a gold rations can, and offered less protection:p




Pietje

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#33 13 years ago
Crazy Wolf;3458938It sees there were fery few tanks engaged by the USA, and most of those weer knoecked out by artillery or American tnaks. This left a wholebunch of AT equipment doing nothing. Also, keep in mind Japanese tanks were about as common as a gold rations can, and offered less protection:p

No offense but have you even clicked on the links i gave you? That aside i think you be surprised at the amount of tanks the Japs produced. Not to mention that the whole protection arguement is absurd.

Dont forget that late in the war Japan developed tanks that could take a Sherman tank out at 1000 meters. Such as for example the Type 3 Medium Tank "Chi-Nu", and the Type 4 Medium Tank "Chi-To".

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/history.htm

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/history2.htm




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#34 13 years ago

FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!

My internet connexion sucks. I typed something detailing how many tanks there were in each campaign with USA involvement, with only one exceeding 200, to my recollection, most involving less than 50 tanks combined. This is not a substantial number, compared to the tanks that were tied up in China, killing civilians and stuff.

However, my point was that the AT rifle was often around after the tanks weren't and was excellent for penetrating cover a sniper would use. Snipers use stuff like trees and brush, not pillboxes. Pillboxes kinda defeat the whole "stay-invisible-or-damn-near-to-it" part of being a sniper.




Pietje

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#35 13 years ago
Crazy Wolf;3461597However, my point was that the AT rifle was often around after the tanks weren't and was excellent for penetrating cover a sniper would use. Snipers use stuff like trees and brush, not pillboxes. Pillboxes kinda defeat the whole "stay-invisible-or-damn-near-to-it" part of being a sniper.

Mwah, not true, you'll be surprised at how well camouflaged pillboxes most of the time where. And perhaps snipers did make use of it. Who knows?

For more information regarding pillboxes see these two links:

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/pillboxwarfare/index.html

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/fortifications/index.html

Dont forget though, that a soldier with a scoped rifle might aswell be a marksman/sharpshooter, instead of a sniper.

Here a nice picture of a pillbox. Not a Japanese pillbox but still. :)

german_fortifications_in_italy_pillbox_dugout.jpg




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#36 13 years ago
GirlsHateMe;3453903have they ever used any AT-rifles at all during the war ?

It's not a stupid question. As for "designed for production", beyond "let's build a shit-big-caliber rifle and make it full-auto, maybe it'll blow up some tanks" as someone pointed out, not really.

Used, as some people have pointed out, nothing widescale beyond shared Brit kit.

Considered, yes.

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Depends on where you draw the line of "rifle", I suppose. Strictly speaking, this one's rifled, and it'd be pretty damn cool against tanks..