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[tR]Mad Mac

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#21 16 years ago
USMA2010SHUT THE HELL UP!!! http://www.battlegroup42.com/ Just for you

Nah, he needs a litte bit of www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/1942/us/home.jsp




Akatosh

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#22 16 years ago
Stealth3I agree with Lobo. You must suck if the ppsh41 owns you.

Eh, it wasnt what Lobo said! Pay attention what you agree with ,kid! On topic: I had the fortune to be russian (very seldom i choose side, i "take" that side the server puts me on) on some citymap and i normally are extremily bad in those kind of maps since i really refuse to jump around in circles spraying with mps. (yes, i am one of those lame guys hiding somewhere high, picking of peoples with some boltaction rifle) But i was "in the mood" when i became russian so i took the ppsh machinepistol, mind you advanced slowly (no jumping around in circles), kneeling and firing a short burst everytime i saw an enemy. I can now say i understand why peoples are yelling about the ppsh. Its extremily good, especially compared to the mp40. But this i can believe is realistic (i am no expert on ppsh, its illegal for me to own one in sweden so i cant test it ;) ) But in all those documentaries and stories from WWII , the normal german infantrymen ditched always their rifle in favor for a captured Ppsh. Stg44 on the other hand is really good now (but it should be better ranged damage, in real life it could be used as a supporting machinegun, it had effective range of 800m as compared to k98's 200m)




Angelhunter

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#23 16 years ago
LoboI am sure you didn't rule the map, because if you can't get kills with a MP40 or STG44 you must be a bad player...the PPSH was changed and it looks the good players agree is perfect now...remember, this is a realism mod, we can't do a PPSH that shoots ice creams. And no, we will not make the FG42 a menu weapon, as we have told you the FG42 umbalance maps and had not massive production like the PPSH

to your information: i was on rank 23 on bftracks europe when i still played just for points ... capturing a lot of flags and hunting down enemies in close combat. (no, i will not tell you my nick with which i play online :p ) and i only play FH .. vanilla BF sucks. but since i was on the first page of bftracks i only play for fun anymore, hunting down tanks and planes. i usually don't capture flags anymore, so i dont get good points on bftracks.:rolleyes: you should really get 2 points for destroying a tank or plane. one time i had only 18 total points on el alamein. but i killed about 12 or 13 tanks as an infantarist and died only 3 times .. lol you should really get more points for that than if you just hunt down infantarie what is usually quiet easy for me .. just not in town fights against PPSH ..




Herget

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#24 16 years ago

The PPSH is really good. On Valirisk I felt like a terminator with it. ^^ Maybe a little to strong. :D




Major Hartmann

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#25 16 years ago

The K98 and any other real rifle has much better range than a shortened round like the SG44 fires... Don't know where you get that 200m for the K98 from.




UTF TheRealD

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#26 16 years ago

The Stg 44 is a good weapon on range and close combat.

you have a good chance vs a ppsh, just not if there are 3 guys with ppsh:p . i still think the mp 40 should be better, not equal to ppsh but a bit better than it is now.




Beast of War

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#27 16 years ago
Major HartmannThe K98 and any other real rifle has much better range than a shortened round like the SG44 fires... Don't know where you get that 200m for the K98 from.

Yeah.....Germans found such an assault rifle unmanagable shooting powerfull rifle rounds, so they used shorter casing rounds. These are still more powerfull rounds and with better range then SMG's have, since they use pistol ammo.

When you have played games like CS or Ravenshield you know what happens if you design an assault rifle with powerfull rifle ammo....the AK47 is like that. And the result of it is, it can only be used as a quick firing rifle in semi automatic mode only, else every shot after the first shot goes ballistic and does not hit the target.




Major Hartmann

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#28 16 years ago

Beast, better forget that very fast. The AK47 fires a round very similar to the SG44, I think it's even x33 too. The only reason it's very powerfull in games like CS is that the NATO assaultrifles use a round even smaller, but by no means the AK fires a full rifle round.




Akatosh

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#29 16 years ago
Major HartmannThe K98 and any other real rifle has much better range than a shortened round like the SG44 fires... Don't know where you get that 200m for the K98 from.

I saw it on a page about ww2 handweapons where it stated 200m effective range for k98 and 800m effective range for stg44. You have most surely better sources than i have but i do know that why stg44 was made was because the german army wanted a better (easier to carry and deploy) support weapon than the mg42. I dont know where 800 metres comes from? Better barrel? Better sights? I just want to state i am no expert on weapons at all (except the modern swedish AK4 which i can take apart and put together etc.. ;) )




Major Hartmann

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#30 16 years ago

The Sg44 wasn't meant to replace the MG42. It was meant to replace MPs and rifles for the average soldier, because he can field alot more firepower in close quarters than a rifle, and he can shoot aimed shots at up to 400m. The full sized rifles were a leftover from WWI were it was necessary to penetrate heavy fortifications, and they were a result from the faulty expectations that infantry combat would take place at long ranges of a few hundered meters. During WWII it was recognized that the real rifles were generally overpowered, so smaller rounds were introduced, the short 7.62mm for the russian automatic carbine (forgot that name, SKS I think, not sure), the 7.92x33, the US M1Carbine round.