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obliviousnation

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#81 16 years ago
Dire Wolf 1Keep the medic kits in the game! Turn the pilot kit into a class on all maps with aircraft.

what a stupid idea




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#82 16 years ago
PanzerAcesorry, but i still have trouble beleiving the claim. so do you have any non italian sites that have the same information? just cause obviously any Italian site is going to be at the very least inclined to favor their country

If you have trouble believing that fact you are very misinformed on the italian part in ww2. Did you know how large the italian military was in the 30s? OK, the italians had 280,000 people in russia do you think they had more on a german front or on there own front? The thing is the germans didnt have that many people in africa most people dont know that.




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#83 16 years ago

This is the axis OOB as of 1941 Supreme Commander North Africa Generale d'Armata Ettore Bastico

XX Corpo d'Armata Generale di Corpo d'Armata Gastone Gambara

101st Division Trieste 65th Infantry Rgt 66th Infantry Rgt 9th Bersaglieri Rgt 21st Artillery Rgt

132 Division Ariete 32nd Tank Rgt 132nd Tank Rgt 8th Bersaglieri Rgt 132nd Artillery Regiment

XXI Corpo d'Armata Generale di Corpo d'Armata Enea Navarrini

17th Division Pavia 27th and 28th Infantry Rgts 26th Artillery Rgt

25th Division Bologna 30th and 40th Infantry Rgts 205th Artillery Rgt

27th Division Brescia 19th and 20th Infantry Rgts 55th Artillery Rgt

102nd Division Trento 61st and 62nd Infantry Rgts 46th Artillery Rgt

Panzergruppe Afrika General der Panzertruppe Erwin Rommel

Deutsches Afrikakorps Generalleutnant Ludwig Crüwell

15th Panzer Division 8th Panzer Rgt 115th Rifle Rgt 33rd Artillery Rgt

21st Panzer Division 5th Panzer Rgt 104th Rifle Rgt 155th Artillery Rgt

Division z.b.V. Afrika 155th and 361st Rifle Rgts

55th Division Savona (Italian) 15th and 16th Infantry Rgts 12th Artillery Rgt

arrivals:

1941, february: Ariete april: Trento fall: Trieste

1942, june: Littorio July: Folgore Giovani Fascisti formed on place, summer fall: Centauro, Pistoia and Spezia november: Superga




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#84 16 years ago

in terms of divisions the situation was roughly as follows:

Date............german.....italian, includes armd...mot...

2 and 3 /41.....1...............7.....................1.......1 4/41 to 7/41....2...............7.....................1.......1 8/41 to 1/42....3...............8.....................1.......2 2/42 to 6/42....3...............8.....................2.......2 7/42...............3...............10....................2.......2 8/42...............4...............10....................2.......2 9/42...............4................9.....................2.......2 10/42.............4................11....................2.......2 11/42.............4................12....................2.......2 12/42.............6................11....................1.......2 1/43...............7.................6.....................1.......1 2/43...............7.................6.....................1.......1 3/43...............8.................6.....................1.......1

note the sudden shift in numbers following Operation Torch in 11/42. German divisions were shipped to Tunisia, while iIalian units retreating from El Alamein were gradually overtaken and lfinally forced to surrender to advancing Allied units.

Most of the support and supply units, eg unloading cargo vessels, in North Africa were Italian. I'm sorry for posting so many times in a row.