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wjlaslo

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#1 10 years ago

I was just looking around with my good old friend the Intranet for a new airsoft gun. I decided if my parents let me I'll get the Tanaka K98: WWII GUNS - Relieve The Greatest Battles Of History (It's the one that's a gas-blowback version, meaning it recoils like a real gun) Anyways, I was looking for more videos of an airsoft K98 (or a real one) being fired to help understand how well it works in action and whether it would be worth the money. I stumbled on this video... YouTube - K98 Mauser I noticed that this guy can recycle the bolt and aim again within a little more than 1 second. And he can reload in about 6 seconds. Is this a realistic video? Were K98's really able to fire that fast (this might be a replica)? Is the slowed-down speed to give it the rifle "feel" or just to discourage arcade shooting? Thanks in advance.




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#2 10 years ago

Mudra, like usual, proved with his '98 you can fire fast. EVEN faster than that video.




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#3 10 years ago

That guy has really crappy form.... He's dropping the gun off his shoulder, when he should simply raise his face up and back slightly to move it out of the way of the bolt. I believe the slowed down speed on both the Enfield (it would be even faster) and the K98k are to eliminate problems with spamming i guess. Donno really...all I know is that its too slow in almost every game I've played.

Sadly, I don't have a vid of me firing rapid with my K98k with live ammo...yet...but here's a vid of my friend Sam with his P17:

YouTube - ww1 style rapid fire!

Would have been more accurate if he didn't fix the bayonet to the end, its amazing how much a knife at the end of the muzzles fucks with your steadiness.

YouTube - 2007-08-12 - 10 Rounds Rapid Fire Detail 1

For the enfield, watch the guy in the back, he gets off all 10 in 15 seconds.

And finally, here's me with my straight blot venezualian M24 (pride of my collection too). Its a dry fire, but considering that your already moving to reload during the recoil, it doesn't much matter. Every pull of the trigger has me aiming at the same spot on the wall:

YouTube - Vid aiming down the sights

Now how many times am I going to have to make this postXD This has got to be the 5th, 7th time now.




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#4 10 years ago

It was toned down cause firstly not all soldiers were able to do this! And secondly the first thing you learn in the army is not to waste ammo! With a rifle firing like tha you won't hit anything further away or smaller than a barndoor.




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#5 10 years ago

Um, in real life, I'm sorry, but soldiers tended to use their guns a lot, and learned how to do this.

Also, while in basic you were trained not to waste ammo, in real life, ammo was wasted nonstop. You saw something that might be enemy, you emptyed several rounds into it fast.

As for the way the rifle fired, Sam in the first vid hit the target, at 100 yards away. You gotta understand, there is no such thing as the bullet leaving the muzzle then swerving off at an angle. It flies straight, and as long as the muzzle is pointed at the target, it will hit the target.

Its not pinpoint accurate to do this, course not. But I have hit doing this at 100 yards every shot in the black.




McGibs

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#6 10 years ago
And secondly the first thing you learn in the army is not to waste ammo!

Fire superiority = important.




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#7 10 years ago

Fine make them all semiautomatic. If you have no chance of resupply for a long time, you won't go out and shoot an entire clip at one enemy when you are not sure to score a hit. Plus being under enemy fire doesn't help your accuracy. That's all I'm saying. Soldiers are not Rambo.

Must be two different philosophies here. ;) Old Europe ... you know. ^^




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#8 10 years ago

this is just amazing. This guy rapes with the SMLE.

YouTube - LERA - Mad Minute - SMLE 100 Year Anniversary




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#9 10 years ago

YouTube - Old Military rifles, Enfield Carcano, 03 Springfield, Garand

Another example

And N24, donno what your thinking, but the idea of fire superiority was started in old europe by the Germans in the late 1800s.... Soldiers in the field carry a shit load of ammo too. Not just pouches, you carry spare ammo in all your pockets, bags, everywhere you can stuff an extra round.




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#10 10 years ago

But yeah, the K98 reloading is extremely slow