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=HPSF=Roadrunner

Soda Jerk

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#1 15 years ago

Just did a little research on the Katyusha rockets. I was having a conversation, with [WOLF]Dago Red, about how many were used, in the offensive against the Oder River, and The Seelow heights. Wikepedia (and other sources) said that there were over 2.5 million men (Soviet, Poles and others) involved in that battle, and over 46,000 artilery pieces and mortars. Wow! OF those, 3255 Katyusha rockets were used. I assume they mean the actual rockets, not the launchers. I could not find any info, to verify that, but at the time the launchers would hold 48 rockets appearently. I can't imagine there would be 3255 trucks, with 48 rockets each. They also mounted the Katyushas on tanks, and even TRACTORS, and a modified version on planes. The name Katyusha, comes from a Russian song, which was in The Deer Hunter. I found it easily on Limewire. Might be an interesting song to use in future FH installments. What I would like to know, is why aren't there Katyushas, on the FH Seelow Heights map. Every documentary I've seen on this battle mentions the prevelence of this weapon, and it only seems natural, to use them in the game. Was it a playability issue? Or more for limitations of the engine? I would love to see them in the FH2 version of that map.




Unky Joe

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#2 15 years ago

Hmm...I'd think there would be 3255 Katyusha launchers, I can't imagine a barrage of 3255 rockets lasting very long:uhm:




Dago Red

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#3 15 years ago

3255 rockets sounds like enough for one battle, but i wouldn't put it past the Russians to have actually used 156, 240. Can you imagine.




=HPSF=Roadrunner

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#4 15 years ago

CRAP...now I GOTTA know. I remember hearing something about the number on a documentary, and being flabergasted, that's right flabergasted, by the number. Maybe it was around 150,000. WOW!




Polska

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#5 15 years ago

I doubt the fired all the rockets at the same time though, most likely it's the total sum across the entire battle.




LordKhaine

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#6 15 years ago

They also used to set up row and row of them on the ground, and launch hundreds or most likely thousands in wave after wave of firing. Easy to see why artillery accounted for so many casualties!




McGibs

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#7 15 years ago

3255 rockets is nothing. Id bet it was 3255 launchers. out of 46000 artillery peices, thats a pretty small chunk.




snotvod

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#8 15 years ago

Indeed, 48 rockets are fired of in say 1 minute, + 10 minutes reloading time, then again 1 minute of firing + 10 minutes reloading ... so in 1 hour aproximately 5 salvos are launched, 24 hours in a day, so a single katyusha launcher would be able to launch up to 5760 rockets per day, if it would fire non stop. How long did this battle take? I gues more then one day, and if you just take the massive wartime production capacity of the Russians in consideration, it is very likely that they mean 3255 launchers. And by the way, the rockets themselves are called m-13 if i'm not mistaking.




Tas

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#9 15 years ago

Thats nuts, poor germans..

I wonder why FH doesnt have katusha batteries instead of the 105's, kat's are way more impressive.




=TFM=Melvin

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#10 15 years ago

Maybe the game doesn't do it because the engine couldn't handle it or it would just lag everyone really bad. And, from a game balance, it might not be so fun to be on the receiving end of rows and rows of kat's. Although, I guess they could increase the reload time to really long to give the Germans a chance. But it would still be fun to see the operation in action.

Roadrunner, I also found information about the song (mp3, original russian and translations) at: http://dime32.dizinc.com/~russmus/music-archive.htm

For all you Russians out there (are there any?), here are the words. Hope the Cyrillic letters come out...

Катюша

Расцветали яблони и груши, Поплыли туманы над рекой; Выходила на берег Катюша, На высокий берег, на крутой.

Выходила, песню заводила Про степного, сизого орла, Про того, которого любила, Про того, чьи письма берегла.

Ой, ты песня, песенка девичья, Ты лети за ясным солнцем вслед, И бойцу на дальнем пограничье От Катюши передай привет.

Пусть он вспомнит девушку простую, Пусть услышить, как она поет, Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет.

Расщветали яблони и груши, Поплыли туманы над рекой; Выходила на берег Катюша, На высокий берег, на крутой